Tomb Raider rape scene is purely physical intimidation

[Wurnman]

Fair enough...

Misunderstanding 1 - Yah i read all the articles regarding the Rape scene...(even the source as you pointed out). I was just put off by Taryn's stupid comments

Explanation 1 - Yah i read all the articles regarding... [means all posted articles here on mygaming.co.za website] / (even the source as you pointed out) [here i acknowledges his reply quote on my post, telling him i read his link the "Source" link he supplied] My comment was on his original post not the "Source" link.

Misunderstanding 2 - Comment by OmegaFenix // Maybe because you post like moron. I mentioned wit, not Monk

Explanation 2 - My comment // SO dude, before you (and M0nk) have to wip out your "Wit" as you call it, read what i am saying. / if you take out the (and M0nk) part, what does the sentence tell you? The "you" i am refering to is OmegaFenix, not so?

Funny i never "chirped" you (M0nk) or Omega before my last few posts, yet you guys laid into me like a couple of school boys.

Suffice to say, i am sorry for not making sense even though it made sense to me. Apologies, I will refrain from commenting further.

So your goal is to construct posts which are not understood?

If two people say they don't understand what you are saying, your reaction shouldn't be to chirp them. Just make it clear and then everyone can go home happy.

[OmegaFenix]

Fair enough...

Misunderstanding 1 - Yah i read all the articles regarding the Rape scene...(even the source as you pointed out). I was just put off by Taryn's stupid comments

Funnily enough we still dont know what comments you are referring to....

[MOnk]

ITT: Men telling women how they should feel about rape.

I'm done.

I'm sorry you feel that way.

I don't see it as men telling women how to feel about anything I just see it as human beings discussing a sensitive topic.

[Dan]

Wurnman, Omega: take it to PM, please.

[OmegaFenix]

Wurnman, Omega: take it to PM, please.

Already have Rusty. Its a mission for me so please delete all my irrelevant post (from this thread only please before you get ideas. )

[Pr⊕phet]

I just see it as human beings discussing a sensitive topic.

I see that, but I also see people getting to excited bout it.

Can't say I'm too kosher with watching rape in game or performing it. Sure is a sensitivity for myself I'd probably skip on the title, makes me wonder of my sig again.

:edit
Makes me want to ask:
To what extend should games reflect reality?
What is the point then of using it as a form of escapism or entertainment?
What is the difference between watching it in game, being ok with it and doing it yourself?
Would it make people go out and rape?

I know the last question(s) is extreme, but you have to wonder with some people. Not everyone is just instantly brought up with good set of values and what is the difference between reality and gamers.

[Wurnman]

Hey Prophet, concerning to what extend games should reflect reality, i say it depends on who the games are aimed at, adult or under age.

Personally the scene is not rape scene to me at all (i love the fact that she deter her attacker in the scene before it became rape), its done very tastefully. Honestly, we play violent games where we shoot each other or kill each other and it's fine but now this scene comes along and it is a problem. Are we so as gamers, dull to violence that it does not register as wrong? Should shooting someone in a game also not attract the same disdain as rape?

I see that, but I also see people getting to excited bout it.

Can't say I'm too kosher with watching rape in game or performing it. Sure is a sensitivity for myself I'd probably skip on the title, makes me wonder of my sig again.

:edit
Makes me want to ask:
To what extend should games reflect reality?
What is the point then of using it as a form of escapism or entertainment?
What is the difference between watching it in game, being ok with it and doing it yourself?
Would it make people go out and rape?

I know the last question(s) is extreme, but you have to wonder with some people. Not everyone is just instantly brought up with good set of values and what is the difference between reality and gamers.

[Pr⊕phet]

I hear you. Made think about this all over again having watched Lockout were clear indication of attempted rape, but flick went on.. and so what.

However Azumith still has a valid points imho.

Interesting to see that head in ground now is applied, maybe this topic will just go away, but do remember you will get sand up your nose.

Would it be valid to put something like manhunt and rapeplay in the same bucket? Could you be playing both because in the end both is extremes of forms violence ?

I'd still rather shoot...

:edit
One can punt age restriction all you want, but torrents are blind to it.

[Wurnman]

Man, headhunt & Rapeplay are sick games really but people like that. Like the violence and vulgarity of it i suppose. The Japanese are a weird bunch to be honest, they like games like that, Sexy Beach 3/Virtual Girls, all porno type games. But yes i hear what you saying about Headhunt & Rapeplay being in their way violent. So in a way i'm saying is that we as humans can get very use to something very quickly. In a sick way playing games like that we will become immune to them and not notice the morality barrier that is broken. Hence violent shooting games are now considered as normal.

Tomb Raider game is totally different and I stand firm in believing that the scene is not as harsh as people make it out.

As for torrents and age restrictions on games, those things will not stop an underage gamer downloading/playing them, it starts with the parents. But what is easier, buying/downloading your kid a game to shut him up or spending some time with them after a busy day at work?

I hear you. Made think about this all over again having watched Lockout were clear indication of attempted rape, but flick went on.. and so what.

However Azumith still has a valid points imho.

Interesting to see that head in ground now is applied, maybe this topic will just go away, but do remember you will get sand up your nose.

Would it be valid to put something like manhunt and rapeplay in the same bucket? Could you be playing both because in the end both is extremes of forms violence ?

I'd still rather shoot...

:edit
One can punt age restriction all you want, but torrents are blind to it.