Used game sales are killing single player games

Yeah but I think the Shops selling the 2nd hand games should fork out the $$.
They are the ones turning a fat profit. Make them pay for the online pass.

Where has that approach every worked? They will ofc just pass it on to the customer.
 
Where has that approach every worked? They will ofc just pass it on to the customer.

That's true.

I don't really see a end in sight for this. Only thing that'll stop this is digital distribution.
Some rumors suggest the next gen Xbox and Ps will not have a dvd/blu ray drive but instead use digital distribution.
I guess that could work, but then the cost of games will have to be dropped by a huge margin, considering that digital distribution costs a heck of a lot less.
 
That's true.

I don't really see a end in sight for this. Only thing that'll stop this is digital distribution.
Some rumors suggest the next gen Xbox and Ps will not have a dvd/blu ray drive but instead use digital distribution.
That was a rumour about the next Xbox, which I doubt it true but it's still the rumour.

I guess that could work, but then the cost of games will have to be dropped by a huge margin, considering that digital distribution costs a heck of a lot less.
That's not true, the portion of the retail price related to distribution costs is something like 2% so switching to digital distribution isn't going to change the price of games that much. You still have the 30% cut from the retailer just instead of being a brick and mortar it's the platform holder's cut.
 
That was a rumour about the next Xbox, which I doubt it true but it's still the rumour.


That's not true, the portion of the retail price related to distribution costs is something like 2% so switching to digital distribution isn't going to change the price of games that much. You still have the 30% cut from the retailer just instead of being a brick and mortar it's the platform holder's cut.

So many variables, at the end of the day the gamers will be the ones taking the knock on this.
 
Another factor in digital prices staying high is brick and mortar shops threatening to stop selling games if digital prices are lower. In countries like Europe and America where fast internet is more common, you can imagine what an impact it would have on physical sales if digital purchases of games costs $29 and you had to pay $50 - $60 at physical retailers.
 
Yeah, and the book industry is on the verge of collapse thanks to the scourge of public libraries.

David Braben, you are delusional. How about fixing your shitty model of distribution before attacking people for trying to save a few bucks because new releases have become so overpriced (thanks to aforementioned shitty model of distribution)?
 
Yeah, and the book industry is on the verge of collapse thanks to the scourge of public libraries.

David Braben, you are delusional. How about fixing your shitty model of distribution before attacking people for trying to save a few bucks because new releases have become so overpriced (thanks to aforementioned shitty model of distribution)?

+1 Its just greed.
 
fixing your shitty model of distribution

And that there is the core of the issue in the gaming industry. There's a perfectly valid reason why digital distribution is busy overtaking physical distribution.

Also, as an interesting example, back when iTunes removed DRM from all their music, sales suddenly started booming, because no instead of people being treated like thieving children, they suddenly started being treated like responsible adults.

It's just a little something I wish gaming publishers would think of.
 
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Retarted threads like this just make me laugh - so if i buy a second hand car im taking a new vehicle sale from the manufacturer, same applies to electronic products such as laptops, tvs etc. why dont those manufacturers complain about second hand sales ?
 
Yeah, and the book industry is on the verge of collapse thanks to the scourge of public libraries.

David Braben, you are delusional. How about fixing your shitty model of distribution before attacking people for trying to save a few bucks because new releases have become so overpriced (thanks to aforementioned shitty model of distribution)?

+1 to this..So nice to see Dan the man standing up for what he believes in :D
 
Yeah, and the book industry is on the verge of collapse thanks to the scourge of public libraries.

David Braben, you are delusional. How about fixing your shitty model of distribution before attacking people for trying to save a few bucks because new releases have become so overpriced (thanks to aforementioned shitty model of distribution)?

the best description i have seen explaining whats happening
 
I think more than half my PS3 games are preplayed. If they make it illegal in will continue to buy preplayed from other community members. End of story.
They should be so happy that I don't pirate their games instead.
 
I have a few preplayed pc games because to try find them new means importing it from overseas because of the age of them. That becomes very expensive. Nox I look at you...
Besides one mans junk is another's treasure... :wtf: or something along those lines
 
Nox I look at you...

I agree with you that finding some games can be hectically difficult and/or expensive, but regarding Nox, I just have to say...

this. :p

Wonderful site, that GoG.com is. Bought the game from them myself a while back, but it's still lying on my 'to be played' list.

And while we're talking about them, sites like GoG.com is an amazing way for publishers to supplement their incomes. There are 100s of old games I'd like to get my hands on again, publishers just need to take the step and do something like GoG. It might not be enough to determine whether a publisher lives or dies, but any money is good money, especially when there is no other viable alternative to get the game.

Publishers just need to start thinking a bit more creatively.
 
They should be so happy that I don't pirate their games instead.
Why? The end of day the people who made the game are getting the same amount of money from you, that is they get nothing.

*Anyway not getting into the whole preplayed argument, it's like a broken record, suffice to say overplaying its role is just as bad as saying the impact is non-existent.
 
I agree with you that finding some games can be hectically difficult and/or expensive, but regarding Nox, I just have to say...

this. :p

Wonderful site, that GoG.com is. Bought the game from them myself a while back, but it's still lying on my 'to be played' list.

Well I paid R40 for my copy which wasn't too bad.
I haven't used gog yet. I should soon as I am keen to get my hands on a lot of games. Problem is I also like to have retail boxed versions compared to digital so I would rather wait it out until I give up searching
 
The thing I love about GoG is all their games are optimized to run on modern operating systems and configurations, so I never have to spend any time tweaking or fixing them before I can play.
 
The thing I love about GoG is all their games are optimized to run on modern operating systems and configurations, so I never have to spend any time tweaking or fixing them before I can play.

yeah, I wish it was like that with the copy of Nox I have. Every time I try play the game and then exit I have to log off windows and log back in again coz the ingame music just keeps playing and then eventually it hangs.
 
The thing I love about GoG is all their games are optimized to run on modern operating systems and configurations, so I never have to spend any time tweaking or fixing them before I can play.
Their updated installers make a big difference. Nothing worse than breaking out a golden oldie only to have hassles even trying to install the thing.
 
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