*WINNER* Win a PS3 160GB *VOTING ROUND*

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Originally Posted by Gboy

I am one of the people who voted for Ichigo and set up an account for the sole purpose of voting only.

That asside i find it quite amusing that everybody is getting so uptight about how the votes were generated with this being a Gaming site, where all you guys do on here is play in a world that is generted for your own benifit, to game and beat the other guy.

Yes i get all the other issues of gamers only etc should have had a say or vote but hey this was just another game where Ichigo won the game. There are no rules in a game and if you find a cheat to get you one up on the other guy then hey what is the problem, do you go out and tell everybody how you did it probably not. So are you telling me that no one on this site has used a cheat in a game before to get ahead, sure you havnt.

Its easy to hide behind a forum and sling stuff at the other guy but it really makes no difference in the scheme of things. Good luck to the winner and hope you enjoy the PS3 and always wanted one!

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Thanks for the vote and glad you found my topic useful

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Originally Posted by James

Actually, there are rules - you are required to read them when you register: MyGaming Forum rules

Interestingly, I can also see that you have the same IP address as a number of other accounts all created within minutes of each other that all voted for Ichigo.

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Which accounts had same IP's as him would love to know, if it isnt classified that is

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Originally Posted by Gboy

You are correct and are all accounts that i use on a daily basis so for sure they would have all been from my IP address, nothing to hide here so good job for figuring that out.

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Thanks for proving my point.

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Originally Posted by Ichigo

Which accounts had same IP's as him would love to know, if it isnt classified that is

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I won't be posting that sort of information.

Icihigo, you got busted. Get over it. Seriously.

Unfortunately I did see this happening.

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Originally Posted by MOnk

Considering the value of the prize there should probably be some restrictions on who can vote, like more than X posts and registered for longer than Y weeks.

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As for people complaining that it's not fair to discount these votes, well I'll tell you most other forums would just ban all those accounts and your own for vote rigging and be done with it. The fact that James has both not banned you and kept you in the competition to count your legitimate votes says a lot about how lenient he is, so to carry on whining about how he rigged the votes is unbelievably laughable.

I'm a little disappointed about how few legit votes there were but I think the format of the competition needs a bit of work, maybe a community discussion. The idea was interesting though.

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Originally Posted by Ichigo

Thanks for the vote and glad you found my topic useful



Which accounts had same IP's as him would love to know, if it isnt classified that is

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Dude really you bitching and moaning isn't going to change the fact you never won. Get over it.

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Originally Posted by Tsar

Dude really you bitching and moaning isn't going to change the fact you never won. Get over it.

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Hows that even a reply to what I said do you read the post first? Got over it long ago when I went to eat a pancake an hour ago unless you want me to start again.

There is questioning the running of something and there is getting personal because you're butthurt ........ the latter is not on no matter what. In the end, James took into consideration input from the community and actually put it in action. The result was a fair outcome and a step toward the betterment of the community. Not many other places are so personally involved, so appreciate it.

A forum will always come down to a popularity contest when members vote, it's one of those things, most gamers will not look at or fully appreciate content and effort when their friends are involved. It may not seem fair but that's them, not the staff. Hey, it's gamers :shrug: Whoring votes is not the way to go about winning stuff, interacting with a community is.

My 2c anyway .....

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Originally Posted by Mephisto_Helix

There is questioning the running of something and there is getting personal because you're butthurt ........ the latter is not on no matter what. In the end, James took into consideration input from the community and actually put it in action. The result was a fair outcome and a step toward the betterment of the community. Not many other places are so personally involved, so appreciate it.

A forum will always come down to a popularity contest when members vote, it's one of those things, most gamers will not look at or fully appreciate content and effort when their friends are involved. It may not seem fair but that's them, not the staff. Hey, it's gamers :shrug: Whoring votes is not the way to go about winning stuff, interacting with a community is.

My 2c anyway .....

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Oh ok well still thought your topic was good :D

I voted for Ichigo too....I remember cause i liked the name lol

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Originally Posted by Sillicur

I voted for Ichigo too....I remember cause i liked the name lol

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Really? Why didn't you read all the entries and get a feel for what everyone did?


Like I said - gamers :shrug:

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Originally Posted by czc

Its like government giving people ID's for extra votes.

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Hell if the Government would do something like that I still wouldn't vote for those in place :p

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Originally Posted by Azimuth

This was a MyGaming community vote. Having people come in from another forum and register to vote for you isn't fair. They're not part of the MyGaming community. It would be like shipping people in from another country for an election.

This rule wasn't stated because it's common sense.

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Exactly!! I see it as a form of cheating.

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Originally Posted by Ichigo

Said my 10+ friends were current mygaming people, markface and rosaudio is 2 of them

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But then what about the other 55 of your friends??

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Originally Posted by James

In the forum admin panel I can see exactly which accounts voted for which option on the poll. It is a simple matter of checking when those accounts were created. I triple checked my count, using two different methods - there were no mistakes.

Because of the obvious and blatant vote padding, the simple criteria applied to all entrants was to remove shill/fake/spam accounts from the voting figures - accounts created after the date the poll went live that have done nothing other than vote on the poll. As everyone can see, there were a few entrants who had their final score revised down.

Checking IP addresses and user names, it is also clear that a number of accounts were registered by the same person, for the sole purpose of padding votes. This is actually grounds for disqualification, but because the revised result included only votes from community members established before the poll went live, I deemed it a fair final result. Everyone was measured by the same stick and all legitimate community votes were counted.

As for the laughable accusation that I rigged the vote: I could refute it by posting the list of who voted for which option on the poll for all to see and verify for themselves. I have nothing to hide in that regard. However, I will not be doing that because the votes are made anonymously and likely not all members will want to have their votes made public.

The decision is final. No amount of (ironically) questioning my integrity, demanding to see the list of voters, or making idle threats to no longer contribute to the MyGaming forum is going to change that.

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Please name and shame the user responsible for the large number of fake account.

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Originally Posted by NathanCrowster

Please name and shame the user responsible for the large number of fake account.

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No.

/10 characters

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Originally Posted by Mephisto_Helix

Really? Why didn't you read all the entries and get a feel for what everyone did?


Like I said - gamers :shrug:

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Like I say - Bakersmen :shrug:




/runs like hell :p

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Originally Posted by NathanCrowster

Please name and shame the user responsible for the large number of fake account.

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James doesn't need to make mention of who did such things nor does he have to post lists of all the valid votes that were tallied up. I'm pretty sure that in future he will focus more specifically on people who try to maneouver their way around the comp to increase their chances of winning.

It's scary to think of the lengths people would go just to increase their chances of winning and it's sad.

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Originally Posted by sycogrim

Hell if the Government would do something like that I still wouldn't vote for those in place :p



Exactly!! I see it as a form of cheating.



But then what about the other 55 of your friends??

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Friends and family who dont use forums yet were about 20+- (guessing had to help them register) not sure about rest

And this is why I didn't even enter. :P

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Originally Posted by James

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Originally Posted by Ichigo

Friends and family who dont use forums yet were about 20+- (guessing) not sure about rest

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Yeh so you see, it's exactly fair if you have people that aren't willing to stick around and contribute towards the forum and try be apart of the community, to come and drop a vote then bugger off. I mean think about it logically, am I being fair in backing Azimuth on this, as well as those who are just trying to put a point across and saying "hey man listen, your methods are unethical it's not fair that this is a community driven comp and outsiders with no contribution are coming in and ruining it unless they are here to stay"??

I'm not being nasty in any way about this, I'm just trying to make a valid point.

The irony is more people would probably have voted for you two if it wasn't obvious that you were vote padding. Anyway, water under the bridge, congrats to Crz for winning. :)

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Originally Posted by Verrayne

And this is why I didn't even enter. :P

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well only did it after seeing McCrazieGoalz cloning etc. so was the only way to catch his votes, since I thought James would do nothing about his votes and why do nothing and lose if he didnt do something.

I read the reason for not making the votes visible but i dont understand the need? Why should they be hidden?

I didnt enter purely cause i knew the voting would be a mess and someone always does that thing where they ask the world to vote for them and they win just on friend count(or the entire forum knows them so they win like that :P). I voted for McCrazieGoalz cause his thread seemed popular which i thought was the reason for voting.

Congratulations Waco!

Ichigo - Dude, its over. I had three friends vote for me - who are all gamers (just a pity that they haven't used the community yet, even though they are forced to read all the bloody articles I send them daily). I told them about the comp and the read what I wrote. Then voted. Those 3 votes were taken away - fairly, I might add. This is a community competition and it is only fair that active users have a say in here. Otherwise, it might poorly reflect the results of what our COMMUNITY reckons are good user generated content.

I had fun writing the piece, and was even more thrilled when it made the Top 10, because I only contributed one piece. I enjoyed this experience so much, that I moved my article to the 'How To" section and expanded on it.

It was a simple community-based competition and should not be made anything more than that. No need to play on anyone's sympathy by using your nephew's situation. If I were you, I would apologize to all of the kak you said about the community's integrity (to James in particular) and continue to be a member of the community. Try your luck next time again.

EDIT: There we go.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iw5kH7civTo

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Originally Posted by Mephisto_Helix

Really? Why didn't you read all the entries and get a feel for what everyone did?


Like I said - gamers :shrug:

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Cause I dont have hours of free time like you apparently. I read his, I liked his name.

Like I said - nerds :shrug:

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Originally Posted by TheAvenged87

Congratulations Waco!

Ichigo - Dude, its over. I had three friends vote for me - who are all gamers (just a pity that they haven't used the community yet, even though they are forced to read all the bloody articles I send them daily). I told them about the comp and the read what I wrote. Then voted. Those 3 votes were taken away - fairly, I might add. This is a community competition and it is only fair that active users have a say in here. Otherwise, it might poorly reflect the results of what our COMMUNITY reckons are good user generated content.

I had fun writing the piece, and was even more thrilled when it made the Top 10, because I only contributed one piece. I enjoyed this experience so much, that I moved my article to the 'How To" section and expanded on it.

It was a simple community-based competition and should not be made anything more than that. No need to play on anyone's sympathy by using your nephew's situation. If I were you, I would apologize to all of the kak you said about the community's integrity (to James in particular) and continue to be a member of the community. Try your luck next time again.

EDIT: There we go.

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Well if theres another competition with interesting thread I got nothing to add unless I do same one I did again which is pointless

Not into intense gaming like everyone else

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Originally Posted by Ichigo

Well if theres another competition with interesting thread I got nothing to add unless I do same one I did again which is pointless

Not into intense gaming like everyone else

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Well I entered and am happy with the first entry I did. It was fun to write it and to me that's what counts, I knew I probably wouldn't win but there was no harm in trying. That is why people should enter I reckon.

Funny enough, I found reading the discussion about how the winner was chosen far more interesting than any of the 'interesting' articles that were entered for the competition :D

Without further a do, I'd have to say that James handled the situation very well and I'm quite frankly impressed with the outcome, so I commend James for that.

And of course last but not least, here's a big congrats to waco for winning the competition! Well done!

Model of the story is make more friend on Mygaming thats why Crzwaco Won it.

I just signed up to the forum because of the competition advertised on MyBB or i got it in my email and i manage to get 3 Votes from the community.

Well it was copy and paste but i had to uploaded those video collection to YouTube and i also create my own Torrents due that some of the video was to long to add to youtube.

Im still seeding thats DIY FIX Video and Ebook collection.

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Originally Posted by NathanCrowster

Model of the story is make more friend on Mygaming thats why Crzwaco Won it.

I just signed up to the forum because of the competition advertised on MyBB or i got it in my email and i manage to get 3 Votes from the community.

Well it was copy and paste but i had to uploaded those video collection to YouTube and i also create my own Torrents due that some of the video was to long to add to youtube.

Im still seeding thats DIY FIX Video and Ebook collection.

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I am not so sure about your statement about being more popular on the forum will get you more votes. DOCH is also a very popular member of the forum and also had some quality stuff available for the competition (check out his forum posts, they aren't bad either. Crzwaco is a deserved winner, and also a regular member of the community. Sure, he might have gotten a vote or two from other members, but isn't that the entire point?

You had some awesome stuff up. Perhaps move your stuff to the "How To" section so that more members can use it for a longer amount of time (doesn't really matter if it is 100% your content or not), someone else might benefit from it. I reckon that a lot of this content should be moved to that section, I think we all did a really good job in creating (or in some cases, pointing other users to) content. I encourage more forum users to do so more often.

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Originally Posted by Ryansta

I read the reason for not making the votes visible but i dont understand the need? Why should they be hidden?

I didnt enter purely cause i knew the voting would be a mess and someone always does that thing where they ask the world to vote for them and they win just on friend count(or the entire forum knows them so they win like that :P). I voted for McCrazieGoalz cause his thread seemed popular which i thought was the reason for voting.

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Thank you Ryansta for your honest opinion (and for voting for me).

I hear that I was cloning. I don't know what that means but, I only started to ask people to vote for me because although I had been a member of MyGaming since August last year, I had never really found an article that I could contribute something meaningful to, so I knew my chances of getting votes here were particularly slim. Even though my topic attracted the attention and responses of over 20 MyGaming members and had some really robust discussions.

So, I did not win. That doesn't surprise me because I have never been great at these popularity contests anyway.

The reasons why I decided to recruit voters is because there is evidence that my topic was by far the most interesting and felt very much agrieved by the fact that it was being made to compete in a personality contest and not a content contest.

I had absolutely no votes by the end of the second day of voting and Ichigo was leading by 10 votes, others had 6, 4 etc.

In all honesty, while your subject was potentially kind of interesting, your actual contribution to the discussion was - I thought - pretty poor. There's not a single thought-provoking point in it.

Despite the subject being of particular interest to me as a woman, a feminist, and a gamer, I would not have voted for your submission.

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Originally Posted by James

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The decision is final.

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Like a boss!!

Congrats crzwaco, enjoy your prize!!

This topic is now closed for discussion.

Wait, what?! "whistling:

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Originally Posted by TheAvenged87

You had some awesome stuff up. Perhaps move your stuff to the "How To" section so that more members can use it for a longer amount of time (doesn't really matter if it is 100% your content or not), someone else might benefit from it. I reckon that a lot of this content should be moved to that section, I think we all did a really good job in creating (or in some cases, pointing other users to) content. I encourage more forum users to do so more often.

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I'll be moving the various topics to the correct forums over the next few days.

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Originally Posted by Ichigo

My family is angry that we didnt win cause of this

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This is perhaps the saddest thing I've heard all day. Next thing you know, your family will probably go seeking legal advice regarding this.

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Originally Posted by Gboy

I am one of the people who voted for Ichigo and set up an account for the sole purpose of voting only.

That asside i find it quite amusing that everybody is getting so uptight about how the votes were generated with this being a Gaming site, where all you guys do on here is play in a world that is generted for your own benifit, to game and beat the other guy.

Yes i get all the other issues of gamers only etc should have had a say or vote but hey this was just another game where Ichigo won the game. There are no rules in a game and if you find a cheat to get you one up on the other guy then hey what is the problem, do you go out and tell everybody how you did it probably not. So are you telling me that no one on this site has used a cheat in a game before to get ahead, sure you havnt.

Its easy to hide behind a forum and sling stuff at the other guy but it really makes no difference in the scheme of things. Good luck to the winner and hope you enjoy the PS3 and always wanted one!

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Uhm, even though MyGaming is on a virtual platform called The Internet, this is still Real LifeTM. It's a bunch of real people interacting with each other on a social platform, not a videogame. Also, try cheating in an online multiplayer game and see where it gets you.

Honestly, the logic some people display in this thread is actually making my head hurt. Jeeze, if I did my psychology paper on this it would probably be hailed as the next big thing in behavioural psychology.

Hmm guys I think this is getting a bit out of hand. So you lost, clearly there was some form of vote padding going on. There might have been a point if one of the vote padders won, but neither of you did, so I guess justice was done after all.

Thanks mygaming for giving people the opportunity to win :)

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Originally Posted by Azimuth

In all honesty, while your subject was potentially kind of interesting, your actual contribution to the discussion was - I thought - pretty poor. There's not a single thought-provoking point in it.

Despite the subject being of particular interest to me as a woman, a feminist, and a gamer, I would not have voted for your submission.

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Fair enough. Point taken.

However, as a researcher, the point is not to make my opinion heard or to influence opinion when exploring a topic.

The point is to encourage discussion and to bring issues out .

I came into the discussion with no real convictions about anything hoping to find out what people felt strongly about. Perhaps I did not do that well enough either.

I must say, I perhaps took the competition thing a little too far, bouyed by the amount of responses I got from my topic. Perhaps if the competition was in another format and if the rules were a little different I would have won. But, so says everybody else I guess.

Nevertheless, I have gained many insights into my research topic and will definately be taking into consideration some of the issues that were raised - for instance the fact that some female gamers prefer not to disclose their gender for fear of retribution. I have also got a sense that gaming is still pretty much a guy thing.

To clear my name...

Please take a look at the following thread from ps3za.co.za: http://bit.ly/IJkwbI.

I do understand the reasoning behind your decision. However, I am quite sure there are many gamers who have signed up to MyGaming through me (to vote for me) who are just as buffled by your decision as I am.

I am quite sure that these guys (at least 22 of them) signed up not just to vote for me but to be part of this community as well.

Nevertheless, this has been a learning curve for me.

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Originally Posted by McCrazieGoalz

Fair enough. Point taken.

However, as a researcher, the point is not to make my opinion heard or to influence opinion when exploring a topic.

The point is to encourage discussion and to bring issues out .

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I get that, but my point is that I thought even your questions were kind of bland, and didn't really add anything new to the topic as it is today. Like I said, I think it's potentially a very interesting space for discussion, but it didn't really happen here.

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Nevertheless, I have gained many insights into my research topic and will definately be taking into consideration some of the issues that were raised - for instance the fact that some female gamers prefer not to disclose their gender for fear of retribution. I have also got a sense that gaming is still pretty much a guy thing.

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You should check out www.fatuglyorslutty.com.

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Originally Posted by Azimuth

I get that, but my point is that I thought even your questions were kind of bland, and didn't really add anything new to the topic as it is today. Like I said, I think it's potentially a very interesting space for discussion, but it didn't really happen here.



You should check out www.fatuglyorslutty.com.

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Alright.

Thank you for the link.

I will look into it.

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I have just had a look at it.

A very brilliant website, particularly for my study.

So, one of the issues is actually harrasment in gaming communities. I can vouch to that and I am sure a lot of us can too. And there is a type of harrasment that is directed particularly at women or at opponents because they are female.

I stop there.

Thank you.

All I am gonna say is lol

I knew this is what would happen xD
In all honesty this comp was a failure, turned into who had the most friends on Failbook/other forums.
Comp like this can only work if say senior members are the only ones allowed to vote, but that would ruin the idea of bringing in new members...

The my gaming guys had good intentions but unfortunately the members exploited the loops...