Mw2 for PC situation has gotten even worse.

/mature argument mode off.

Wat the f*#k Azimuth, haven't we already HAD this argument in another thread?

Yet you go right back to arguing your old position despite having been given good reasons as to why the lack of dedicated server support is a serious problem for the PC community.

Furthermore, to your comment: "Being angry and being a bunch of self-entitled brats making unequivocal demands of a company are two different things."

Actually, we're customers making demands to a company who is producing something for US. I know you're South African, and the concept of "Service Quality" is not something you are aware of, but us PC gamers, we are aware of service quality. And we're not afraid to voice our complaints about it. Does that make us "self-entitled brats"? No, that makes us aware of what we would like from something we are supposed to pay money for.

Now, on to the whole is-it-the-developer, or is-it-the-publisher debate. On a project like this, with the amount of code required, it is FAR more likely to be developer driven. The publisher frankly doesn't give a good goddamn about HOW the MP is implemented, so long as it can generate sales. The publisher may have had some suggestions, or planted the seed of an idea, but it's still down to the developers to make the game and implement the features.

PS.
I agree with Azimuth. Either buy the game, or don't buy the game. Don't be an asshole and pirate it. That just makes you a worse person than the retarded developers. And WTF would want to be a worse person than these retarded developers?

PPS. If you have a problem with swearing. Stay off the internet. In fact, stay off life. I've heard people at work swear more than any online 12 year old i know.

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/mature argument mode off.

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is this like lvl 12yrs old ?

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Originally Posted by Necuno

is this like lvl 12yrs old ?

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Well, yes.

I thought a more mature argument would be wasted on various individuals.

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Originally Posted by GReeN_ORB

PPS. If you have a problem with swearing. Stay off the internet. In fact, stay off life. I've heard people at work swear more than any online 12 year old i know.

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I do agree with you that swearing is a part of life but this remains, as i said before, a family site so all im asking is that we keep the swearing to a minimum. Its not that hard and trust me i swear like a drunk, pissed off, sailor who just watched the last of the rum go up in smoke. So please guyz. The odd swear word is bound to pop in but just dont go overboard.

Rest of Post +1

I don't care about swearing, but I think everyone should respect the rules of the forum.

This entire thread has been completely derailed by Azimuth's ranting. Stop attacking everyone, all you're doing is senseless flaming. If you have something relevant to say then say it. Stop bringing in your same tired arguments for another round, you might as well just copy-paste your stuff from another thread.

This thread is not about the merits or moral dilemmas of piracy, or how much gamers are "self-entitled brats". It's about dissatisfaction with a developer's decision. You have made your views clear, please stop reposting your opinions over and over again in the form of abuse and flaming.

This is a discussion, if you disagree with something, state it in a manner which is not openly abusive. And please, if you have made your point once, then leave it. It's been said.

Azimuth what is actually your problem? Were you not held as a child? What is it? Your constant sarcastic derogatory remarks get tiresome and for some reason you strike me as a very bitter sad lonely individual.

If you don't like it on here and you think we are all spoiled brats then do us all a favour and leave. No one seems to cause more kak on here than you and the mygaming community I personally feel can do without it.

We are trying to have a discussion about the current affairs relating to IW and MW2, no one got agro so I don't see where you get off calling us brats and this and that. Your bad attitude really sux, leave it at the door.

The bad NAG attitude is obviously a pre requisite for working there.

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Azimuth what is actually your problem? Were you not held as a child? What is it? Your constant sarcastic derogatory remarks get tiresome and for some reason you strike me as a very bitter sad lonely individual.

If you don't like it on here and you think we are all spoiled brats then do us all a favour and leave. No one seems to cause more kak on here than you and the mygaming community I personally feel can do without it.

We are trying to have a discussion about the current affairs relating to IW and MW2, no one got agro so I don't see where you get off calling us brats and this and that. Your bad attitude really sux, leave it at the door.

The bad NAG attitude is obviously a pre requisite for working there.

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Thats pretty unnecessary, and just as irrelevant as Azimuths flaming. Can we please get back on topic now?

agreed.

lets please get back on topic.

Current tally for petition:

http://www.PetitionOnline.com/dedis4mw/petition.htm

102599 Total Signatures

100,000 X $60USD = $ 6,000,000 Potential Lost Revenue

Not sure if this is a repost but Robert Bowling has responded with:

fourzerotwo: Definitely made a big wave, and the response will not be ignored. I'll ensure everyone at IW sees the petitions and responses to it.

So not really sure if that means anything, doesn't rly sound like much - but at least IW claims they will actually respond.

Be interesting to see what that response is.

I wonder how the world would have been if everyone accepted everything without any argument. 'Hey look, Hitler wants to create a 3rd Reich, agh it's okay, change is good'. It's a basic human right to stand for your principles and calling people "self-entitled brats" for standing up against a frankly moronic publisher is nothing short of idiotic. I don't care if you think it works well on consoles, we aren't using consoles, we are using PC's and as such it comes with certain prerequisites. Are we not allowed to protest? Must we just say yes sir I'll take it up the you know what and be happy with that? I don't think so.

/rant off

That would be interesting to see what there response is after they are letting us the consumer down big time.