Farmers encouraged by state to give shares in their farms to farmworkers

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The possibility that farmers would be "encouraged" by the state to apportion shares in their farms to farmworkers, was worrying commercial farmers, Beeld reported.

The share option was contained in a proposed policy document of the department of rural development and land reform.

It was suggested that a farmworker with 10 years of "disciplined service" on a commercial farm would be entitled to a 10 percent share in the ownership of the land.
...read more here: Farmers encouraged by state to give shares in their farms to farmworkers

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It was suggested that a farmworker with 10 years of "disciplined service" on a commercial farm would be entitled to a 10 percent share in the ownership of the land.

After 25 years of service, a worker would be entitled to 25 percent, and 50 percent after 50 years.

No mention was made of what would happen when a number of labourers worked on the same farm for more than 10 years.

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So if you have 10 workers who have been there for 25 years, then you would have had to give away 250% of your farm? Good thinking government...

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be entitled to a 10 percent share in the ownership of the land.

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One day, I would like to visit the government's fantasy island of rainbows and unicorns.

LOL tell this to anybody in Europe they won't believe you :P .

They do realise most farms are private companies so there is a limit to how many shareholders your allowed. So how will you choose your 9 farmworkers to spend weeks filling papers to give em shares.

So with this logic I am entitled to 10% shares in our company after 10 years of service...or am I entitled to 10% shares of the country after I've been a loyal citizen for more than 10 years...get real government...

Seems decidedly dangerous. We've already got a serious problem on the agri side as is without more kak.

The vast majority of the knowledge is still with the Afrikaans white crowd - its handed down from generation to generation. Not because they are "better"...its just a side effect of our history. Now you simply can't stick a black guy on a farm and hope he learns overnight how to run a multi-million farm operation. Doesn't work. And farm ops have to be multi-million scale to be competitive.

So for better or worse, currently we need the Afrikaans okes. And we really can't afford scaring them away with farm murders, talk of 10% share or the usually baboons with their shoot a farmer crap. Its either Afrikaans farmers or millions of Rands of failed crops. Not in it self a big issue. But we still need the maize...so we can import it. That shifts the forex balances and then the Rand craps itself. Shortly thereafter the rest of the economy goes to shit too (e.g. immediate effect...petrol price goes up).

I don't care in the least about Afrikaans farmers...but agri is one of the areas where we *really* *really* need the government to not fck it up royally. So...as I said...seems dangerous.

If we had a surplus of knowledgeable farmers then the gov could try all their funky trial & error plans aimed at scoring political points. Now is not the time. Well I guess it is if you're willing to win an election even if it comes at a risk to the country.

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Originally Posted by Lyt

LOL tell this to anybody in Europe they won't believe you :P .

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Europe has some rather funky rules too. Labour unions sitting on board of directors and such. Then again their labour unions are less....African....they negotiate in good faith instead of demanding 100% increases.

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Originally Posted by HavocXphere

Seems decidedly dangerous. We've already got a serious problem on the agri side as is without more kak.

The vast majority of the knowledge is still with the Afrikaans white crowd - its handed down from generation to generation. Not because they are "better"...its just a side effect of our history. Now you simply can't stick a black guy on a farm and hope he learns overnight how to run a multi-million farm operation. Doesn't work. And farm ops have to be multi-million scale to be competitive.

So for better or worse, currently we need the Afrikaans okes. And we really can't afford scaring them away with farm murders, talk of 10% share or the usually baboons with their shoot a farmer crap. Its either Afrikaans farmers or millions of Rands of failed crops. Not in it self a big issue. But we still need the maize...so we can import it. That shifts the forex balances and then the Rand craps itself. Shortly thereafter the rest of the economy goes to shit too (e.g. immediate effect...petrol price goes up).

I don't care in the least about Afrikaans farmers...but agri is one of the areas where we *really* *really* need the government to not fck it up royally. So...as I said...seems dangerous.

If we had a surplus of knowledgeable farmers then the gov could try all their funky trial & error plans aimed at scoring political points. Now is not the time. Well I guess it is if you're willing to win an election even if it comes at a risk to the country.


Europe has some rather funky rules too. Labour unions sitting on board of directors and such. Then again their labour unions are less....African....they negotiate in good faith instead of demanding 100% increases.

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Well this comment left a rather sour taste in my mouth. :mad:

You don't need generations of knowledge to run a business.The majority of 'africans' still have the mindset of people from the stone age.

You reckon they come up with an idea and then just thumb suck values?

"Eh...10 yers eekwals...eh...10 percent. Ya. Dat is vvverry fair from eh...the...eeh konsti-tuutional pont of veew."

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Originally Posted by Lyt

LOL tell this to anybody in Europe they won't believe you :P .

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I am going to try that :p

And in other news farm workers who have been working at the same farm for 9 years are retrenched.

Read another article about this today. Sounds like the math in the bill doesn't even add up.

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After 25 years of service, a worker would be entitled to 25%, and 50% after 50 years.
No mention was made of what would happen when a number of labourers worked on the same farm for more than 10 years.

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Originally Posted by HavocXphere

Read another article about this today. Sounds like the math in the bill doesn't even add up.

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And what if you have, say 5 employees working over 25 years...do you give them 125% :confused: :wtf: Just uselessness all round!

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Originally Posted by [email protected]

And what if you have, say 5 employees working over 25 years...do you give them 125% :confused: :wtf: Just uselessness all round!

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I hear they've started using crayons to sign the bills into law.