Gameplay Trailer for Mass-Murdering Shooter Is Beyond Brutal

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Originally Posted by Ike_009

I have no problem with violence in games but this is sick. In most games there is a story behind the killing but this story is pathetic.

I think that if your method of suicide is to go out and kill as many innocent people before you get shot then your a special kind of twisted. I mean those are innocent people who did nothing to ruin your life and you decide to destroy as many families as possible because your unhappy, personally I think the police should stun you and sentence you to 50 years of shock therapy. Now here we have a game that's glorifys this behaviour. What's next chemical warfare innocent village genocide edition, hitlers gas chamber simulator, baby skeet shooting?

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Why isn't there already a baby skeet shooting game. i wants!

I am going to say this. What about the scene when you send incendiary mortar down on innocent civilians(including children). Which I think is a lot worse than this game. But anyway can't argue with people on this forum. One big circle jerk.

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Originally Posted by Tsar

I am going to say this. What about the scene when you send incendiary mortar down on innocent civilians(including children). Which I think is a lot worse than this game. But anyway can't argue with people on this forum. One big circle jerk.

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It's important to understand that there are other views out there that are different to yours, it's not about right or wrong. Somehow you will have to develop an ability to deal with this sort of thing.

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Originally Posted by Fivel

It's important to understand that there are other views out there that are different to yours, it's not about right or wrong. Somehow you will have to develop an ability to deal with this sort of thing.

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Don't bother, Tsar is being overly sensitive.
This game is a poor attempt at headline grabs and you need to be a special kind of twisted to enjoy it.

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Originally Posted by The Joker

Don't bother, Tsar is being overly sensitive.
This game is a poor attempt at headline grabs and you need to be a special kind of twisted to enjoy it.

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This is a "love it or hate it" game and game trailer. And I hate it; ironic, given its name.

"The further away you are from a reality, the less real it'll seem to you."

This, to me, explains why people involve themselves in certain games/films/you-name-it without the "normal" or expected psychological reactions. It obviously doesn't account for everyone's actions, but I believe it does for the majority of people.

I think it looks pretty good. I quite enjoy the isometric games.

Disclaimer: I am by no means able to make exact and accurate claims on specific matters as I am far from a psychologist or medical practitioner, I have my interests in Geography and the modern English language.

Firstly, this may sound hypocritical but it's true. Opinions are like shit, everyones stinks.
Luckily I believe that everyone has a right to voice theirs regardless of their beliefs on the matter sometimes we just have to agree to disagree with someone and be an adult about it. Accept that not matter what we think someone else will always have a different opinion.

Secondly, games to not make violent people, violence makes people violent, this has been proven over and over again.

Thirdly, I am making a very crude example of this but... Postal, Manhunt, 25 to life where violent games, and can not be justified by saying well you are killing criminals. Killing in our modern society is wrong and killing someone because you are told or believe that their actions are causing danger is also fundamentally wrong.
I won't go into detail about this because it can be split and debated into many other topics including the topic of self preservation. Put simply - killing someone because they are bad is just not right, that said killing someone who is good is not right either.

Finally, Will I play this game? Yes. Will I enjoy it? Possibly, I can't be too sure about it until I have played it. Does it make a bad person? According to me no.Others might differ in opinion and as I stated at the start I accept the fact that some may not agree.

What I do believe is this: It is a bunch of pixels, and if you do find pleasure in a game like this then depending on the pleasure you receive from it you may need to receive some form of medical attention and counselling. However if you do play it and seem to become aroused or infatuated by it I believe that you are suffering some form of repressive emotions that are being brought out by the relief that you are finding with in the game. Again the game is not to blame but the immense amount of mental or physical abuse that you may have suffered at some point in your life is now being brought out and offset by the game.

I'll leave you with this to think about.

He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you. - Friedrich Nietzsche

I agree with you. I think a big factor for the disagreement in this thread is the arbitrary definitions of good and bad.

I feel certain games/films/you-name-it gives people an unnecessary wisdom. Ignorance is bliss.

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Originally Posted by Glordit

Disclaimer: I am by no means able to make exact and accurate claims on specific matters as I am far from a psychologist or medical practitioner, I have my interests in Geography and the modern English language.

Firstly, this may sound hypocritical but it's true. Opinions are like shit, everyones stinks.
Luckily I believe that everyone has a right to voice theirs regardless of their beliefs on the matter sometimes we just have to agree to disagree with someone and be an adult about it. Accept that not matter what we think someone else will always have a different opinion.

Secondly, games to not make violent people, violence makes people violent, this has been proven over and over again.

Thirdly, I am making a very crude example of this but... Postal, Manhunt, 25 to life where violent games, and can not be justified by saying well you are killing criminals. Killing in our modern society is wrong and killing someone because you are told or believe that their actions are causing danger is also fundamentally wrong.
I won't go into detail about this because it can be split and debated into many other topics including the topic of self preservation. Put simply - killing someone because they are bad is just not right, that said killing someone who is good is not right either.

Finally, Will I play this game? Yes. Will I enjoy it? Possibly, I can't be too sure about it until I have played it. Does it make a bad person? According to me no.Others might differ in opinion and as I stated at the start I accept the fact that some may not agree.

What I do believe is this: It is a bunch of pixels, and if you do find pleasure in a game like this then depending on the pleasure you receive from it you may need to receive some form of medical attention and counselling. However if you do play it and seem to become aroused or infatuated by it I believe that you are suffering some form of repressive emotions that are being brought out by the relief that you are finding with in the game. Again the game is not to blame but the immense amount of mental or physical abuse that you may have suffered at some point in your life is now being brought out and offset by the game.

I'll leave you with this to think about.

He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you. - Friedrich Nietzsche

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Yep, while I agree with what you say, there are many who will pick up on this and use it as another rod for the video game industry, like it or not, you cannot ignore it.

Secondly, while the majority of folk on the forum have a well formed view of reality, there may be some who will struggle and even be encouraged by this sort of game to 'act it out' - do we need to encourage or even support more 'violence' albeit in a game, in a world that becomes more desensitized than ever.

I look at a new game like Shadows of Mordor, very violent, but I'm killing orcs and the like, so it's fantasy and I can live with it. It does seem hypocritical.

There is just something the Hatred trailer that is deeply disturbing and as supporters of the video game industry, I do not want to see the industry head in this direction. I will vote with my wallet and not buy this, but I do worry about this intense drive for exact realism in games. I like my entertainment to be distanced from reality - the world is a scary enough place.

As you say, this is an immensely complex subject, but I do enjoy the varied views and restraint shown by most as we discuss this.