Official Elite Dangerous Thread

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Originally Posted by Wyzak

Have they fixed the quests yet, making questing a viable income source? The last time I played I was lucky if I could complete 1 of the quests in a station and then I'd probably get 10k credits for it (if I don't have to commit a crime). It was far more lucrative just hunting for bounties and the odd debris.

Or the quest would send me 20 jumps away and it takes me about 30 minutes to get there for a measly reward.

I'm also not a fan of this whole 10 year development cycle crap. Call me old school but I want to buy a finished game on day 1 and play finish it and move on. This 10 year development cycle thing just allows them to keep on saying "not yet, but coming soon".

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They have increased the rewards for doing missions. But I haven't been focusing on missions. My main reasons for getting the game were more related to exploring and causing nonsense with friends.

The 10 year cycle makes sense to me if you think of the game as an MMO. Which is basically what it is, and most MMOs have a long development cycle. A lot of people have however complained about the game, with season one bing finished now, and to them it feels like the game is not finished. I'm not going to judge until after patch 1.5 gets released. As it will be the last patch for season one and only then can we really see if things got delivered as promised.

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Originally Posted by axon1988

They have increased the rewards for doing missions. But I haven't been focusing on missions. My main reasons for getting the game were more related to exploring and causing nonsense with friends.

The 10 year cycle makes sense to me if you think of the game as an MMO. Which is basically what it is, and most MMOs have a long development cycle. A lot of people have however complained about the game, with season one bing finished now, and to them it feels like the game is not finished. I'm not going to judge until after patch 1.5 gets released. As it will be the last patch for season one and only then can we really see if things got delivered as promised.

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I backed the game when they said that it would be playable offline. I bought a copy for my friend just before they announced that they could not do offline mode for creative reasons. Not technical reasons.

Could you give us an example of what nonsense you get up to with friends, or how you find the exploring satisfying? I would also like to do that with my friend, but since we can't share quests, we have to try and both get the same quest at the same time which is very rare. Then we need to find the rare item twice which involves many USSs.

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A typical quest that I'd actually take, because it's one of the only ones I consider doable goes something like does:
1) Accept quest to collect this floating around, or kill somebody who's bounty is 20-30s. If the bounty is anything decent then he's got an army with him and I don't stand a chance.
2) Jump to the target system, takes about 1-2 minutes per jump, can be quite far away and then you just go through the same motions over and over.
3) Get to the correct system, fly around hoping to find a USS (unidentified signal source).
4) Find a USS, go in, just a bunch of ships with no bounty or a funeral procession.
5) Go supercruise
6) Look for another USS, all the previous USS that had just been right outside have magically vanished.
7) After flying around a few more minutes I get another USS, go in, oh it's somebody offering me an alternative place to drop off the cargo that I haven't found yet.
8) Go supercruise
9) Enter a few more USS, if I'm lucky I might find the right one, or some killable ships with good bounties on them. If I'm unlucky I might run into something so powerful that it just kills me costing me a bunch of money, a bunch of time, all of the bounties that I had collected at that stage but not handed in, all of my cargo, and 10% insurance to buy me ship back and repair it.

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An example of exploring would be:
1) Jump into a new system
2) Press the d-scanner
3) It doesn't pick up anything, dud, jump to next system.
4) It picks up something or 15 somethings, fly close enough to each one to enable the scan. Wait 15-30 seconds for the scan to complete. Fly to next one and repeat. It can take about 15-20 minutes of just flying, stopping, scanning, waiting.
5) Then you need to fly more than 100 light years away before you can sell the exploration data.

Or what am I missing? It feels like a grind fest with a lot of hurry up and wait. Do all of this until you have enough money to buy a new ship, buy a new ship and rinse and repeat. The quests are randomly assigned, there isn't any progression (or wasn't any when I last played). The quests have a real life timer and expire even if you quit the game which was a big issue for me as I can't guarantee how much time I'll have to play or how soon I'll be able to play again. If you fail a mission you lose reputation, you don't just not gain any.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMxrzsNn31k


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYv5ri9yN18

So tonight I will be attempting to join the Kaushpoos community goal. Who wants to join me?

"Kaushpoos, Neville Horizons: Help construct a new station in the Pleiades Nebula, and earn rewards by selling metals to Neville Horizons in the Kaushpoos System."

Who all has this on console?

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Originally Posted by Keepa34

Who all has this on console?

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I wish the xbox and pc players could play together. That would be amazing.

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Originally Posted by axon1988

I wish the xbox and pc players could play together. That would be amazing.

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Sigh, I hate it when games do that :(

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Originally Posted by Wyzak

Sigh, I hate it when games do that :(

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Yeah that's for sure. It does suck. IIRC fdev were talking about possibly combining the 2 platforms in the future. I guess it depends on technology. I don't really know who limited they are to options and how it could be implemented.

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Originally Posted by axon1988

Yeah that's for sure. It does suck. IIRC fdev were talking about possibly combining the 2 platforms in the future. I guess it depends on technology. I don't really know who limited they are to options and how it could be implemented.

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I wouldn't count on it. Those types of splits tend to just be there because it's something that people have grown to accept. Similar things happen with PC / IOS / Android games. All playing the same game but glass-walled from each other.

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Originally Posted by Wyzak

I wouldn't count on it. Those types of splits tend to just be there because it's something that people have grown to accept. Similar things happen with PC / IOS / Android games. All playing the same game but glass-walled from each other.

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Yeah that's true. You forgot windows mobile :D

I think in Elite's case there is a valid argument where there are so many controller schemes being used in Elite that nobody could claim that pc players will have an advantage to console players due to the use of keyboard and mouse. In fact, I think that using a keyboard and mouse gives you a disadvantage over controller and joystick players in this specific case.