Why I dislike Apple products

So I regularly get blasted off-forum for my extreme dislike of anything Apple Inc churns out. Being in the IT field I still prefer to tell people to stay clear of these abominations if they want to connect to my secure corporate network or do anything remotely useful with their device.

So, let's start with the MacBook (Retina) released in 2015. It has a 1.3GHz dual-core Intel Core M Broadwell processor (Turbo Boost up to 2.6 GHz) with 4 MB shared L3 cache. Not the fastest processor in the world, sure as hell not faster than a Core i7-3770S (which is Quad core @ 3.1 GHz). It has 8 GB of 1600 MHz LPDDR3 SDRAM and RAM is not upgradeable. NOT UPGRADEABLE? Ok, not like most people need more than 8GB of RAM today, but still. So I can't really fault them on the memory choice here at all LPDDR3 @ 1600MHz is perfectly acceptable for a laptop. Graphics are pushed by a Intel HD 5300 graphics with LPDDR3 SDRAM shared with main memory on a 12" 2304 × 1440 (16:10) 226 ppi display. I find the display a tad small, but if you're into a 12" display, then good on you. On to the storage, 256 GB or 512 GB SSD, not too shabby...and lastly it has a nice 480p webcam. Wait, what? 480p? Why not 720p? It makes no sense. No worries, if you don't really use the camera. Surely you do want to (if you're insane like me) use say an external keyboard, mouse and BluRay writer. Oh, I can't because there are no USB type-A ports. I have to use an ADAPTER?!

So can someone please explain to my why the MacBook is deemed superior to say the Asus G551JW with an Intel i7 4720HQ processor, 16 GB RAM LPDDR3, NVIDIA GeForce GTX 960M 4GB DDR3, 1TB 5400 RPM HDD and a 128 GB SSD, Blu-Ray writer, 720p webcam and 3 x USB 3.0 ports? Or even the Dell XPS 13? Acer Aspire V3?

Maybe I don't get it, is there something I'm missing? What am I missing? I'll rant about the iPhone next...

Not missing much except for brand preference as well as it is supposedly a sign of wealth as they are overpriced most times:p

It's supposedly the best to use for designers and so on. But I don't see the draw - iTunes is the reason I hate it.

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Originally Posted by PsychoFish

So I regularly get blasted off-forum for my extreme dislike of anything Apple Inc churns out. Being in the IT field I still prefer to tell people to stay clear of these abominations if they want to connect to my secure corporate network or do anything remotely useful with their device.

So, let's start with the MacBook (Retina) released in 2015. It has a 1.3GHz dual-core Intel Core M Broadwell processor (Turbo Boost up to 2.6 GHz) with 4 MB shared L3 cache. Not the fastest processor in the world, sure as hell not faster than a Core i7-3770S (which is Quad core @ 3.1 GHz). It has 8 GB of 1600 MHz LPDDR3 SDRAM and RAM is not upgradeable. NOT UPGRADEABLE? Ok, not like most people need more than 8GB of RAM today, but still. So I can't really fault them on the memory choice here at all LPDDR3 @ 1600MHz is perfectly acceptable for a laptop. Graphics are pushed by a Intel HD 5300 graphics with LPDDR3 SDRAM shared with main memory on a 12" 2304 × 1440 (16:10) 226 ppi display. I find the display a tad small, but if you're into a 12" display, then good on you. On to the storage, 256 GB or 512 GB SSD, not too shabby...and lastly it has a nice 480p webcam. Wait, what? 480p? Why not 720p? It makes no sense. No worries, if you don't really use the camera. Surely you do want to (if you're insane like me) use say an external keyboard, mouse and BluRay writer. Oh, I can't because there are no USB type-A ports. I have to use an ADAPTER?!

So can someone please explain to my why the MacBook is deemed superior to say the Asus G551JW with an Intel i7 4720HQ processor, 16 GB RAM LPDDR3, NVIDIA GeForce GTX 960M 4GB DDR3, 1TB 5400 RPM HDD and a 128 GB SSD, Blu-Ray writer, 720p webcam and 3 x USB 3.0 ports? Or even the Dell XPS 13? Acer Aspire V3?

Maybe I don't get it, is there something I'm missing? What am I missing? I'll rant about the iPhone next...

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I'm going to play devil's advocate here because I like a balanced discussion, not because I'm an Apple fan. I'm really not, the only Apple product I own is an ipod. Full disclosure, I do love my ipod.

Apple products will always lose on hardware when comparing it to an equivalently-priced PC/ notebook/ phone. Unfortunately it is not fair to compare Apple products purely on this level. When you buy an Apple product, you are buying a complete package that includes exceedingly well-optimised software. iOS/MacOS software is optimised specifically for each device that it runs on which is a feature that you will never, ever find on PC hardware/ Android hardware.

Apple products are designed for and marketed to consumers that don't have any desire to have to tweak, configure or customise in any way. Apple users prefer a single out-of-the-box solution that at a PC environment seldom provides. The isolated ecosystem of Apple products directly enables this through strict quality control of third-party software as well as the above-mentioned software optimisations of each Apple product. This ecosystem also allows a seamless integration with other Apple products. This is a highly desirable feature for those who are less technologically inclined, or for those that just don't want much hassle.

Their products are designed for a specific market, one which I do not fall into, but I can appreciate it for what they are trying to accomplish and how they are, in my opinion, doing so very well. I'm not saying that any of these attributes make Apple products worth the price, or that they make Apple products necessarily superior, I'm just saying that it's not so simple to compare apples with... well... Apples.

Fantastic comment [MENTION=9032]StaggerLee[/MENTION]. I share your sentiments completely.

We tend to forget that there are more people in the world that is not technologically inclined, nor actually care if a product is faster than another. If you take a survey of random people from the street, by far the biggest portion will not care at all that the Apple products are slower than their competitors. As people that read and have an interest in technology, it's easy for us to see which one is better, because we understand the difference better

Apple has always made a product that is extremely easy to pick-up and use. You get the hang of the interface and the system very quickly, the software available for all Apple products are insanely well designed to run of their products, and they are rather intuitive to use. This is the biggest reason why people not only got roped into the marketing behemoth that is Apple, but stayed there as well.

Also, if you already have an iPhone and an iPod, you almost cannot get any better than getting a Macbook, just for the eco-system that Apple creates. If you are loyal to the brand and keep getting Apple products, you will have a good time.

But, as people that are interested in technology, we know that Android and Windows devices are just as capable as any Apple device, and it's a fact that any competing product are much better technologically than an Apple product. But we are the minority of users, by a long shot.

fanboyism unfortunately.
Not sure where the link is, but some dude went around town showing the new Iphone - IOS 9 (But it was an android device).


People really didnt know the difference and were sold on "apples" new device look and OS.

I hontesly promote apple to users that I know will struggle with having the ability of full control over your devices.
If apple made a tv that had on/off, I would promote that too so grandma doesnt auto tune her tv.

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Originally Posted by DieGrootHammer

Fantastic comment [MENTION=9032]StaggerLee[/MENTION]. I share your sentiments completely.

We tend to forget that there are more people in the world that is not technologically inclined, nor actually care if a product is faster than another. If you take a survey of random people from the street, by far the biggest portion will not care at all that the Apple products are slower than their competitors. As people that read and have an interest in technology, it's easy for us to see which one is better, because we understand the difference better

Apple has always made a product that is extremely easy to pick-up and use. You get the hang of the interface and the system very quickly, the software available for all Apple products are insanely well designed to run of their products, and they are rather intuitive to use. This is the biggest reason why people not only got roped into the marketing behemoth that is Apple, but stayed there as well.

Also, if you already have an iPhone and an iPod, you almost cannot get any better than getting a Macbook, just for the eco-system that Apple creates. If you are loyal to the brand and keep getting Apple products, you will have a good time.

But, as people that are interested in technology, we know that Android and Windows devices are just as capable as any Apple device, and it's a fact that any competing product are much better technologically than an Apple product. But we are the minority of users, by a long shot.

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That would be fine and all, if 100% of the people in my life with Apple products don't go out of their way to try and convince me that Apple is SUPERIOR in every way etc.
Which is totally different from people that just don't know any better.

[MENTION=6600]PsychoFish[/MENTION]. I hear they've even stopped making mac's with RJ-45 ports. Going FULLY wireless only on their Macs. ...is that true? o_0


Also, anytime anyone tells me their iPhone is superior I go "give it here, I have some movies on my pc i wanna give you...oh wait, you can't use your expensive phone as a basic flashdrive without jailbreaking it? too bad"

So why do people buy a MacBook and then run Windows on it then? Makes no sense. I'm trying to make sense of the hype train. The Mac OS is fine, but it's as stable as any Linux (being based on BSD helped); The limited hardware support is likely due to the wring of proprietary code to ensure the OS can correctly interface with the hardware. Software options seem very limited.

PsychoFish I couldn't agree with you more. and the iphone is fucking retarded

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Originally Posted by Wyvern

It's supposedly the best to use for designers and so on. But I don't see the draw - iTunes is the reason I hate it.

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I'm a designer and I refuse to work on a mac

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Originally Posted by ArchieChoke

fanboyism unfortunately.
Not sure where the link is, but some dude went around town showing the new Iphone - IOS 9 (But it was an android device).


People really didnt know the difference and were sold on "apples" new device look and OS.

I hontesly promote apple to users that I know will struggle with having the ability of full control over your devices.
If apple made a tv that had on/off, I would promote that too so grandma doesnt auto tune her tv.

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not the one you're referring too but just as funny :D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdIWKytq_q4

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Originally Posted by mottamort

[MENTION=6600]PsychoFish[/MENTION]. I hear they've even stopped making mac's with RJ-45 ports. Going FULLY wireless only on their Macs. ...is that true? o_0

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Honestly don't know and really don't care either.

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Originally Posted by mottamort

Also, anytime anyone tells me their iPhone is superior I go "give it here, I have some movies on my pc i wanna give you...oh wait, you can't use your expensive phone as a basic flashdrive without jailbreaking it? too bad"

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I just have to ask them to connect to my wireless, as Apple doesn't support EAP-IKEv2; Or ask them to please take the battery out of their phones.