US military ends gay ban

US military ends gay ban

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Washington - The US military is ready to accept openly gay recruits for the first time in the country's history, officials said on Tuesday, as a judge upheld an order ending a controversial ban on homosexuals serving in the armed forces.

But the military will tell potential recruits that the so-called "don't ask, don't tell" rule could still be reinstated depending on the outcome of pending court decisions, the Pentagon said.

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So we might start seeing gay soldiers in COD, MoH and Battlefield? :D :p

Seriously though, this law has never made any sense to me, especially in recent times with heterosexual people being far more open minded and accepting.

The opponents complain that this will compromise national security. Why? What is the difference if "PFC Jones" is fine to guard the white house/pentagon today, but tomorrow you find out he is gay, so he can no longer be in the army??? Makes no sense. The only way this compromises security is when officials are too narrow minded and boot out perfectly able & willing soldiers.

So who is then the bigger threat? Soldiers that are gay or homophobic leaders?

Butts to the wall gentlemen! Those tailgunners are coming for you!

lol - gay men in the military - that cracks me up. <--- see what I did there? :)

They need people for the frontline, and they can strap them to the tanks and aeroplanes for more protection.

So I guess we're going from a "Don't ask, don't tell" policy to a "You can tell us, but we don't care". :rolleyes:

soap on a rope to become standard issue equipment...

Execpt for the OP this entire thread stands as a testament to how ignorant and possibly even homophobic SA still is.

To all of you cracking jokes at these people's chosen sexuality, ever stop to think how you would feel if people started alienating you because of your choses political views/religious inclinations or even choice in prefered past-time. How often do we, as gamers, complain that people herd us into a stereotype simply because we choose to play games and here you are doing exactly the same thing to someone of a certain sexuality.

Ever consider we may have homosexual people on this forum, fellow gamers, who you are alienating with these lame jokes?

@ OP: I have also never understood why this law or the banning of gay marriages or not allowing same sex couples to adopt exsists.
Massive strides has been made in religious and racial equality yet we are still so against people with differnt sexualities.

Unfortunately many South Africans are still extremely conservative. This is a large reason why South Africa is at times held back by it's people. I'm not saying everyone go nuts tomorrow and lose it, but I am saying wake up to the fact that it is 2010. Hopefully the next generation won't be as held back by conservative upbringings.

Anyway, my point with the op is, I just want someone to explain to me how being a gay soldier/pilot/marine/sailor makes you a worse or even incompetent soldier?

I think many have a misconception that gay men are all soft, feminine like men and women are the super bad ass, chicks with more chest hair than some guys. Yes, some homosexual people are like that, but you don't think you would notice them in the military? I'm willing to put money on that those guys weren't exactly falling over their feet to enlist. Gay people can be as normal, everyday as you and me. Which is why so many gays are still in the armed forces and no one is the wiser. So why now that he comes out, is he suddenly no longer a good enough soldier?

And when I refer to he, I also refer to women here.

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Originally Posted by DenSweeP

Unfortunately many South Africans are still extremely conservative. This is a large reason why South Africa is at times held back by it's people. I'm not saying everyone go nuts tomorrow and lose it, but I am saying wake up to the fact that it is 2010. Hopefully the next generation won't be as held back by conservative upbringings.

Anyway, my point with the op is, I just want someone to explain to me how being a gay soldier/pilot/marine/sailor makes you a worse or even incompetent soldier?

I think many have a misconception that gay men are all soft, feminine like men and women are the super bad ass, chicks with more chest hair than some guys. Yes, some homosexual people are like that, but you don't think you would notice them in the military? I'm willing to put money on that those guys weren't exactly falling over their feet to enlist. Gay people can be as normal, everyday as you and me. Which is why so many gays are still in the armed forces and no one is the wiser. So why now that he comes out, is he suddenly no longer a good enough soldier?

And when I refer to he, I also refer to women here.

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Thats true about SA, we can only hope hey.

My Wife has a family friend who is gay, but when I met him i would never have guessed it, his husband is more femine.
Im sure any soldier enlisted did so because he wanted to serve his country and jsut coz he/she is gay doesn't change their devotion to the cause, if anything I think they possibly have a bigger devotion if you think of what they could go through if it becomes know that they are gay. The only thing that jumps to mind is possible frantinisation (spelling) I mean in the olden days there where no women soldiers coz they didn't want the men unfocused, so maybe that something thats bothering them? I dunno, since nowadays u get female soldiers.

Hey i support gay folks.

More ladies for us!

I understand about the fraternisation thing, but like you say, today the military is co-ed? anyway. But, the leaders knowing or not knowing isn't going to change what happens. It's so freaking stupid.

So, "Cpl Green" is gay, but nobody knows. For years he has served honourably and proudly. Never an issue. Now, one day he comes out or is found out and the courts say he must go. WTF??? Just because someone is gay, doesn't mean they automatically like everyone of the same sex. What, you are heterosexual, so that means you must want to jump every womens' bones you see.