Why not reserve the 2nd post of the thread for the numbers thing, instead of updating it randomly through the thread. at least it saves you having to wade through looking for the last update. Other than that, the main job is still of the mods who have to allocate the numbers to the correct person and make sure he/she had the number 1st.
Now thats a great and easy to implement Idea!!!Originally Posted by DenSweeP
Dude he wasn't ranting. I think it's the best complaint I've ever seen since he goes through the effort of fully describing his problem and a suggested solution. I'm inclined to agree with him, though as TM said, not enough time, so until then, just read the posts of the people who go through the effort of tallying it up for you.
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Since each post has its own number (blue bar, right-hand side), why not use that as the poster's entry number? The mod would still have to police the thread though; it would be incredibly difficult for some individuals to post only once in any given thread.
Oh ya, the 'top' button doesn't work.
Juice's suggestion would work provided, as he said, people could learn to only post once. No "sry bra ur not allowd 2 enter" posts by other users.
Grimspoon, the issue is that those mods or volunteers still have to wade through the posts 'frequently' to weed out the posts that don't belong and tally up what could become insane amounts of numbers. Those people also have lives they'd like to get on with; having to sit there wasting their time on something convoluted can only serve to tire them out.
DenSweep, as with above, it still causes an issue for those trying to get their entries in in that they have to meticulously pick through the invalid entries to find people that have already tried posting 'their' numbers, then post any numbers that they think aren't taken yet, then wait on the mod or volunteer to see which of their numbers are now valid, then go and try to get the other numbers picked. If it were only one number per person, that would keep things significantly more simple, but still make it more frustrating than it needs to be.
And Blaze, you might have noticed (guessing you didn't) that I suggested someone make a PHP module, not the guys running MyGaming's site/forums. This forum looks to be using phpBB v3, so it's open to allowing external PHP modules of the sort. If this is a community driven forum, there should be a few dozen, if not hundreds of users, that have the knowledge required that could set it up in minutes; just because it's easy doesn't mean that everyone is able or inclined to learn how to do it, but at the same time doesn't mean there aren't people that already know how to.
Think about it. 10-30min creating the module, that allows for all future competitions, whether free or not, to be entered in an efficient, sane manner by every contestant, and to be moderated and checked by its administrators in a matter of minutes or even simply seconds, vs one that wastes what could amount to hours of every contestant's time, as well as that of the competition administrators.
My post served to demonstrate potential frustration regarding the competitions. Your post served to demonstrate a narrow minded opinion that was typed before taking into consideration the factors that made up the post you were replying to.
*edit* Also to the competition admins, the 'please don't bother with promotion drives for entries' remark is based on that you could just as easily have a competition entry requirement involve the posting of a facebook status pointing to the thread or similar.
Gigabyte, for their 'fans' competition, would have a series of pictures on which users would post a +1 for their entry. What this does is it lets all their friends know that they've commented on "someone's" photo, which, if someone clicks on the link to go see what it's about, can also see what group it's a part of and thus might start looking at more information regarding the group and/or competitions/associated content.
It does pose the problem that many people would like to keep their superhero identities hidden, so they don't want to associate their forum name with their real name, which would mean the competitions would need to be run solely on Facebook or a similar platform, with the forum thread simply directing to the discussion for the competition on Facebook, instead.
You get your publicity, users get their entries for free stuff, everything is immediately remarkably more simple for all those involved, except those that don't want Facebook profiles.
The only catch is that, because of a lack of facebook name/forum name linking, you can't have minimum post requirements, so the PHP module on the forums would still work better.
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Nanonyous between myself and Toxin we manage to keep the comps rolling properly so that people don't go and choose duplicate numbers with lists in which we create. We also add the comp rules for that specific comp at the bottom of the list, in bold and highlighted for everyone to see. No one should have any excuse to say that they did not see the comp rules as we add them to the list of competition entries.
We do try and avoid duplicate entries, but what I like to do is inform those that have taken duplicates to please change their numbers, just to make it fair for them and this way they also get notified about their numbers being taken already and can quickly come in and change it.
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And I appreciate the effort you guys are putting in for everyone, but fact remains that people simply do not read competition rules, because it's too much effort for them. Additionally, as I've said several times now, it's all good and well that you guys make lists of valid and invalid entries and chosen numbers, but when there are already several hundred numbers chosen and a few dozen people with multiple numbers that were already taken, that's several dozen people that will "quickly come back to change their numbers", which means that there is a very good chance there will still be a bunch of those people editing their posts choosing duplicate numbers, and you will still have to go review all the entries to see who chose what numbers first in their post edits and who still has invalid picks.
In other words, multiple people have their time wasted, both entrants and competition admins, and I don't doubt that at least one of those people that often enters competitions and often has their time wasted has the knowledge required to make a PHP module for the competitions.
Ok well as for the rules, if people find that it's too much effort to read them and follow them, well thats at their own discretion however they will not be entered into the competitions. If people don't like that, well then that is just too bad, it's not our problem that they are just too lazy to read and follow the procedures that have been put in place to allow fair entries to those who actually make valid contributions to the site. I honestly do not feel sorry for them, that's just their own bad for not following the same rules as what everyone else has since the start of the site 2 years ago.
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You just said the same thing three times in one paragraph.
And I was implying that it's the problem of other entrants and that it causes extra trouble for the competition administrators, especially when having to weed out post-spammers that don't read rules such as this past competition's of needing 40 posts in 2010, not 40 posts in total for their entry to magically become valid.
I'll say it again; I don't expect MyGaming staff or admins/mods to make the PHP module, I'm hoping that a community member with the required knowledge would take it upon themselves to.
Well since its your idea and you are a community member and the one fighting so hard for this, why dont you do it then. You seem to be knowledgeable enough to do this.You just said the same thing three times in one paragraph.
And I was implying that it's the problem of other entrants and that it causes extra trouble for the competition administrators, especially when having to weed out post-spammers that don't read rules such as this past competition's of needing 40 posts in 2010, not 40 posts in total for their entry to magically become valid.
I'll say it again; I don't expect MyGaming staff or admins/mods to make the PHP module, I'm hoping that a community member with the required knowledge would take it upon themselves to.
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