Games as a respected medium, gamers as a respected audience: Teething trouble

Tarryn , as a writer for a gaming blog , grouping people who would read the blog together and calling them names reminds me of a college experiment where random students would partake in a month's worth of prisoner vs guard , where after a week the prison guards would become dominant and ragefull , and the prisoners would become defiant and resort to physical violence.
Do you know why that is ?
The role you play reflects the role of people around you. Beat me with a stick and I'll return the favior.
Now everyone put down the Linux manuals before someone loses an eye.
 
kerbyross said:
Tarryn , as a writer for a gaming blog , grouping people who would read the blog together and calling them names reminds me of a college experiment where random students would partake in a month's worth of prisoner vs guard , where after a week the prison guards would become dominant and ragefull , and the prisoners would become defiant and resort to physical violence.
Do you know why that is ?
The role you play reflects the role of people around you. Beat me with a stick and I'll return the favior.
Now everyone put down the Linux manuals before someone loses an eye.
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There was a movie based on that.
 
kerbyross said:
Tarryn , as a writer for a gaming blog , grouping people who would read the blog together and calling them names reminds me of a college experiment where random students would partake in a month's worth of prisoner vs guard , where after a week the prison guards would become dominant and ragefull , and the prisoners would become defiant and resort to physical violence.
Do you know why that is ?
The role you play reflects the role of people around you. Beat me with a stick and I'll return the favior.
Now everyone put down the Linux manuals before someone loses an eye.
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I have absolutely no idea what you're trying to say.
 
Gamers are probably just about as immature as the rest of the human race and just as stupid as...everyone else. Sweeping generalities often make out demographic stereotypes but factually on an individual basis gamers are a pretty average bunch of people.

And by this time, most everyone plays video games so there's no real segregation or anything. There are "hardcore gamers" -- you know, the ones who don't see sunlight. There's casual gamers and probably a whole lot of middle ground, but referring to "gamers" has become such a loose statement that to claim that the immaturity of gamers is holding back the industry refers to the majority of adolescents and a fair percentage of adults.

I think the real culprits of all this immaturity are the Russian gamers. It's really important not to generalize.
 
Shamrock said:
Gamers are probably just about as immature as the rest of the human race and just as stupid as...everyone else. Sweeping generalities often make out demographic stereotypes but factually on an individual basis gamers are a pretty average bunch of people.
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Agreed, dude.

That is my problem with this article and any one like it... Seriously, how many times do you have to say it? Why gamers? It's fsking everyone. Have you had a look at the comments on any forum? On Youtube? People are just as screwed up anywhere.

I also think the anonymity of the internet plays a huge role. Maybe it is showing us the true nature of the human race and our demons..You should totally write something about that..
 
Azimuth said:
I have absolutely no idea what you're trying to say.
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I said what I wanted to , i didnt try.
If the news writers group together all the mygaming community (gamers) and call us a bunch of children , they can expect that some of the "children" are going to have scathing replys about it. Strange to have 2 mygaming writers go on record to say they are ashamed of gamers , where they are the ones writing a gaming blog .
Perhaps they should go seek something else to do , other than to write news for the people they catagorically state they are ashamed about.
 
kerbyross said:
I said what I wanted to , i didnt try.
If the news writers group together all the mygaming community (gamers) and call us a bunch of children , they can expect that some of the "children" are going to have scathing replys about it. Strange to have 2 mygaming writers go on record to say they are ashamed of gamers , where they are the ones writing a gaming blog .
Perhaps they should go seek something else to do , other than to write news for the people they catagorically state they are ashamed about.
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Dude, I think I know what you are saying, but the thing is- growing up means you have to be the better person and stop acting like a child. If someone "treats you like kid" don't stoop to their level and behave like one. It's also very strange a writer, who is also supposedly a gamer, write an article about how immature "gamers" are..Wtf though, seriously?

It just looks like some people never grow up and they are everywhere, not just in the gaming community. Wake up, grow up and realize that.
 
I am a gamer.
The writer of the blog became the second one to go on record to state they are ashamed of gamers.
Let me explain why this is both hilarious and sad.
1. This is a friggin gamer website.
2. That means gamers are going to read that you , the writer , are ashamed of them.
3. You the writer knew that gamers are going to read it so this is either an attempt at insulting the readers or youre tired of writing for us , so which is it ?
4. Not all us "gamers" fall into the catagories that aquire us all to deserve shame yet we all , who read this , are blamed for the same things.
5. Everyone of your readers is a potential critic , that does not mean that we all have to shut up when you say you are ashamed of your readers , where the mass majoroty of your readers are actually all very intellectual and all very capable of being stand-up "gaming" citizens.
6. I believe in the art of critiqing so to end this on a positive critique , let me say this , It is good that someone is saying there is some negative element whitin the gaming community , I just find it amusing that a Gamer-blog writer has the gall to state they are ashamed of us. If thats how you feel go find something else to do. Im proud of the bunch of guys here who make out the mass majority of the SA gaming community.
 
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I game. I agree with the article. I'm ashamed of gamers too. Not all of them, though. Consider the minority who are going on about my e-penis is larger than your e-penis... Are you not ashamed to be associated with those people, for instance? I know I am, because they are giving the rest of us a bad name, aren't they?

What you have to do is consider the majority who don't give in to childish whathaveyous and whatnots. Admittedly though, there is nothing to write about that, is there? That is because we don't make headlines.

No journalist is going to write:

"I was thinking of something to write and decide that all gamers are cool. I therefore decided to write nothing. Tune in next week, though."

Fox News will never report on:

"Videogames: They are fucking awesome. Buy one."
 
Xarvo said:
I game. I agree with the article. I'm ashamed of gamers too. Not all of them, though. Consider the minority who are going on about my e-penis is larger than your e-penis... Are you not ashamed to be associated with those people, for instance? I know I am, because they are giving the rest of us a bad name, aren't they?

What you have to do is consider the majority who don't give in to childish whathaveyous and whatnots. Admittedly though, there is nothing to write about that, is there? That is because we don't make headlines.

No journalist is going to write:

"I was thinking of something to write and decide that all gamers are cool. I therefore decided to write nothing. Tune in next week, though."

Fox News will never report on:

"Videogames: They are fucking awesome. Buy one."
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Sorry but I think the mygaming readers are all a bunch of good guys.
 
kerbyross said:
Sorry but I think the mygaming readers are all a bunch of good guys.
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They are. I didn't see the writer referring to MyGaming readers. Let me check again, because I admit I could have misread.

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Nope, nothing about MyGaming readers.
 
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We're mature gamers. :p


Also the same could be said of drivers. Horrible driving into the Joburg CBD everyday to see all those basic rules ignored. Someone nearly drove into me today on MY SIDE of the road.
 
kerbyross said:
I am a gamer.
The writer of the blog became the second one to go on record to state they are ashamed of gamers.
Let me explain why this is both hilarious and sad.
1. This is a friggin gamer website.
2. That means gamers are going to read that you , the writer , are ashamed of them.
3. You the writer knew that gamers are going to read it so this is either an attempt at insulting the readers or youre tired of writing for us , so which is it ?
4. Not all us "gamers" fall into the catagories that aquire us all to deserve shame yet we all , who read this , are blamed for the same things.
5. Everyone of your readers is a potential critic , that does not mean that we all have to shut up when you say you are ashamed of your readers , where the mass majoroty of your readers are actually all very intellectual and all very capable of being stand-up "gaming" citizens.
6. I believe in the art of critiqing so to end this on a positive critique , let me say this , It is good that someone is saying there is some negative element whitin the gaming community , I just find it amusing that a Gamer-blog writer has the gall to state they are ashamed of us. If thats how you feel go find something else to do. Im proud of the bunch of guys here who make out the mass majority of the SA gaming community.
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+1, nice post
 
kerbyross said:
No ? Were not gamers ?
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We are, but I know for sure I am not the doos who uses a grenade launcher attachment to spite everyone else and then calling their moms names in hopes of getting a heated reply. Then proceeding to teabag other players and sending them a message about how shitty they are at game X. You then exit to dashboard to watch a video and you still get messages from the said person which reads as follows: "aRe YoU DoDgings MY MessaGeS you Loooser? I Pwnt noobz LIkKE you lol xD"

I don't know if all gamers are immature or not. But for the love of God, I can understand now that gamers fail to analyse things objectively.
 
The article is very specific about which gamers and gamer behaviours are immature. Did you even bother reading it?
 
Whenever you put a bunch of people together, label them, there will always be those halfwits who will give the group a bad name. It can be sport teams supporters, music lovers or whatever - I would suggest that gamers are no different.
 
True you could even go as far as sub-catagorising people. FPS Players, RTS players, RPG players, except most of us probably play a few of those as well.
 
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