Hey guys I was just reading up on some of the things you guys had to say and I must say this is a pretty good topic as for my take on it games to me where all about fun yeah if they look good it's a plus but there are just some games you just have to give credit to on the fun factor for exp. Scott pilgrim vrs the world not an old game and they took it back to the days of the bit games I mean you can literally count the pixels on the characters but it was fun as hell because it plays like the classic arcade games and then you have games like I don't know uuuummm socom confrontation where your like "AWW MAN THIS GAME LOOKS AWESOME" and then to your surprise sucked complete road kill squirrel nuts not saying that new games aren't fun cause there are a few good one but still now a days they seem to focus more on looks more than fun