Gay romances confirmed for Mass Effect 3

[Dan]

Enough with the flames, please.

Racist and homophobic comments will be met with the Banstick.

[Nimatek]

Then why not just accept the fact that these games are providing the option of the content and instead say something like : well I don't like the content but luckily I don't have to see it so no biggie.

Instead you have just fueled the issue by not seeing that simple fact. You crusade against the content, fine. But accept that there are others who will crusade for it instead.

~

Back on topic, I have enjoyed both ME and ME2 and have never managed to "bond" with any of the characters, I think I need to try again to actually see what all the hype is about

[Achtung!Baby]

You see, there's the root of the problem, even if you didn't mean it offensively. It's been ingrained into society so much that we barely notice it in our everyday speech. People think of gay sex as 'not normal'. Sexuality is about as normal as it gets, its just years of intolerance spawned by religion that has created this entire image of homosexuality being abnormal. It really doesn't affect any individual if another one has a different sexual preference, so I honestly don't know why anybody would consider it a threat or abnormal.

Whoah, I did not mean it offensively. I guess its just, since Im not gay, or rather lesbian, for myself it would seem a bit abnormal. But I get what you're saying. Im not saying being gay or lesbian is wrong, but you have to give society a chance, this is new or unchartered territory for many of us. Especially growing up and being taught that it is a sin or whatever, people may just take a while to get used to it. For many this is a bit abnormal, but that's not to say that they believe it is wrong. And since the majority in any society are considered normal (in any situation, not just sexuality), then its easy to understand why they see the few who are different as abnormal dont you think? Sorry man, no disrespect.

[Tinman]

I don't want to have to lock this thread, so lets tone it down.

[James]

Enough with the flames, please.

Racist and homophobic comments will be met with the Banstick.

[Necuno]

Thor hammer > banhammer




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[Grievous]

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I bit late to this conversation but this made me laugh.

[MrG]

I simply wouldn't be a fan if it was forced my way. i.e part members started having homosexual behavior. If its something they want to include for your character as a choice.. go for it.. just don't force it.

[Lycanthrope]

But what I am seeing, and what bothers me the most about this thread to date, is the fact that we have numerous people trying to force their views on others - whether those views are right or wrong is immaterial.

Incorrect. In this case "wrong views" are harmful, offensive and inflammatory. ZA has a bit of a problem with corrective rape, violence against gays and all of it stems from a "wrong view" based entirely in ignorance, intolerance and a lack of compassion or even a desire to understand what other individuals go through.

There is no place for unfair discrimination in the world and yet it always finds a place in people who refuse to treat others or even their lifestyles as they wish theirs to be treated.

Syco and others might be entitled to their views, yes, but so too am I entitled to try and show them a perspective they might not have considered before. If by talking to one person like him I can get him to treat one other individual with the same courtesy as he wishes to be treated then I'd be happy.

I'll freely admit that I respect syco for being willing to at least discuss his feelings about the matter instead of just flamebaiting with self-righteous judgement--it takes a good person to be willing to listen and try to understand. However, syco needs to respect the fact that in life there is no black-and-white and that nothing is ever as clear-cut as many of us would like to believe it is.

We all have one life, one opportunity to find happiness and to die having led a good and happy life. I'm sure as Hell not going to pussyfoot around trying to live in any other way than one in which I'm true to myself.

The fact of the matter is that I chose to be gay the same day you chose to be straight. That in itself should be enough explanation where sexuality stems from.

[shadowfox]

Incorrect. In this case "wrong views" are harmful, offensive and inflammatory. ZA has a bit of a problem with corrective rape, violence against gays and all of it stems from a "wrong view" based entirely in ignorance, intolerance and a lack of compassion or even a desire to understand what other individuals go through.

But - right and wrong are subjective. This is the context in which I made that statement. If, for instance, my religion (I'm atheist, so it's not an issue - I'm using this as an example) says that being gay is wrong - then you would be forcing your views on me, because from your point of view it's not wrong. Yes, maybe that religion is obtuse, wrong, silly, irrelevant in this day and age, but I would still have my right to it.

And I wasn't accusing you, necessarily, of forcing your view on anyone - I was commenting on the tone of this thread.

That's all I have to say on the matter, really - like I said, I don't want to get involved in this debate (except I somehow managed it already) - like religious discussions it's likely to turn into a damn quagmire - this thread being a case in point.