I suspect so yes.Originally Posted by MrG
Same as local store-bought WoW gamecards.
The price is set in stone in ZAR.
But I play US. Sometimes I get to buy the cards at a MASSIVE discount due to $ differences.
Same thing with Steam. Because we're working in $, you might get really good deals when the dollar slumps a little. With EA, they support ZAR directly and thus the price is (as mentioned) set in stone, with no possible conversion savings coming into it.
Will only be using origin when forced to do this so. Much prefer steam,gamersgate and gog. Having dealt with EA customer support all I have to say it compares is pathetic. Last time I dealt with them , they actually had no fucking clue that dragon age origins were one of their games, thankfully the bioware developers at their own forum helped me out while it is actually the support service job...I seriously hope they have improved before launching this platform...
Alice is back on Steam!!!
Too bad I've blown my budget on a bunch of other things >.>
Will have to wait until end of the month
Lol, already in the top 3 sellers on steam.Alice is back on Steam!!!
Too bad I've blown my budget on a bunch of other things >.>
Will have to wait until end of the month
T A N S T A A F L
Ooh... So it is! Not bad!
Damnit... I want this so badly
I CAN afford it... But... but... budget...
And so it starts. The reason why we should not be tied in to ANY distribution system. Wonder where all those are that said steam games will always be supported. This is just the first and if there is a backlass to EA there will be one to steam as well. Steam's popularity will fall and more will withdraw from it repeating the cycle.
Funny how it works. Steam was ridiculed and "boycotted" for the exact same reasons but now some people can't seem to get enough from their addiction.
I can't say I'm crazy over this but I'm not against it either. It just seems silly that people can be so in love with their steam, that they would complain about installing a new platform. Think about it every time you install a new game you are doing just that! And if everyone is really so pissed at it then just don't use it, there's a steam emulator so there will be one for origin as well in no time.
As for steam support, is everybody forgetting about Valve's failures of people getting non-working codes with Valve blaming the publishers and the publishers blaming Valve with no immediate solution? Then there is also the letter from Hannes in the latest PCFormat. He bought the game only to find out the key was already used. Steam refused to give him a new one because according to them the till slip must be in color. He managed a refund from the store directly but is now one game he really wanted and a lot of time short. GREAT support there from steam I must say. Seems it's only the fanbois who find it so perfect.
Hannes didn't not buy his game directly from steam. He bough his game from the store hence his first port of call should have been to the store in the first place. Is it really steams job to sort out retail issues?? Most online distributors would tell Hannes its not their problem, at least steam case they offered to help if he had documentation meeting their standards.
As to the second part. Steam gets their codes from either the developers or distributors of the game. Hence if their is a lot of issues with the codes it almost certainly came from the developer/publisher.
Personally I have always had great support. Any issue I have had has been sorted within 24 hours, no matter what time of the week,ect by steam. Can't say the same about ea or most of the local stores/distributors...
Yes it is. If steam just happened to be an unrelated distribution platform it wouldn't be the case but they are also the authentication platform. The DRM comes bundled with the store and vice versa. What you are saying is that they can want their bread buttered on both sides but the real world doesn't work this way. The first port of call for steam games is actually steam itself but their standards for offering help are unfortunately set up to fail the South African user. If you read the letter you'll see a legitimate buyer is now considering piracy, steam and other DRM serves as nothing more than to inconvenience legitimate buyers and I'll be glad when it's known as just another passing phase.
So now it's not the retailers fault but the publisher? More passing the buck. Steam runs the system with the codes and authenticates them. Seems right that the publisher should blame steam as if the codes supplied by them were in the system they should have worked.
Steam may seem like the ideal platform for some but face it they have the same issues. So people who condemn other platforms for it but at the same time praise steam just seams to me like Tank said... hypocritical. It's the behaviour we see from fanbois.
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If the protection used was securom or one of the other formats, I am pretty sure he wouldn't have contacted them first but would have gone to the store or the local distributor...
The first port of call when it comes to retail is always where you bought your product, since they have a legal binding contract with you. Do you go directly to nvidia if you have an issue with your gfx or to your local store??
Also I don't see how their service is setup to fail the south african user. If he had the till slip in the format they require they would have helped him out no problem. They also helped out a lot of south african users very efficiently when "buying directly" from them.
Only if the codes were correctly supplied. No way to know who is righ and who is wrong.
No doudt steam does occasional have the odd issue but their response to fixing it has been quick every time I have dealt with them.
As i mentioned in another thread, i find it amusing how people are attacking EA over this move, but they forget that Blizzard/Activision have been doing this since the beginning of time or did everyone suddenly forget?
Show me where you buy any digital Blizzard game? Definitely not on Steam. You have to buy it from Battle.NET/Blizzard , period. I don't see Blizzard losing any sales what-so-ever by doing this.
Steam will ultimately become a platform for indie and small game developers if things are going the way i predict. Unlike D2D/Gamersgate i'm certain Steam/Valve has become a little like Apple with all kinds of rules and demands made from the likes of EA/Activision.
The reports i've read was not that EA removed Crysis 2, it was VALVE who removed it because EA broke some rule [probably the way DLCs are being sold] .
There's no reason why a PUBLISHER shouldn't have their own digital store. That is exactly what a PUBLISHER is. EA and Activision and Ubisoft have been lazy and slow allowing Steam to operate without any competition. I fully expected EA/Activision/Ubi to have had online stores of their own eventually...matter of time. I mean this is what a PUBLISHER is!
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