Crime in SA getting out of hand

[DenSweeP]

Seriously though, what can the UK offer that SA can't? And remember one little thing, as unlikely as it is is to happen, but the major first world countries, USA, UK, France, Aus etc are also almost all featured on some terrorist top 3 destinations to nuke. It might sound silly, but ask New York? Speak to the London Underground. Look up Madrid train bombings.

Yes, we have shit here and quite a bit of it, but the only way I'll consider leaving SA is if we had to go the route of Zim, but I doubt that would easily happen.

[to0kenZA]

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Ek het n ou geken, wat AUS toe getrek het, agv Crime, jobs etc. Sy eerste dag in AUS, word hy gemug, gunpoint.

Yup, I went to London with my family 2 years ago, and the first day I went there, we saw a guy on a superbike rob a jewelry store and it was on the news that night. Crime happens everywhere. In this country you just need to be streetwise and try to not set yourself up for anything dodgy, as much as you can.

[Tsar]

My friend lived in the uk for a year and he was jumped by yobs for his bag lol. cracked his head open.
The med care in uk sucks and in the us.

[anon815]

Seriously though, what can the UK offer that SA can't? And remember one little thing, as unlikely as it is is to happen, but the major first world countries, USA, UK, France, Aus etc are also almost all featured on some terrorist top 3 destinations to nuke. It might sound silly, but ask New York? Speak to the London Underground. Look up Madrid train bombings.

Yes, we have shit here and quite a bit of it, but the only way I'll consider leaving SA is if we had to go the route of Zim, but I doubt that would easily happen.

Ye, its a matter of personal luck. What you don't think ppl get mugged in the UK? :P maybe less hate crime but then again there's terrorism and natural disasters and ontop of that shitty weather!

[EffKay]

Whilst it is true that Crime is everywhere (hence the need for police services everywhere), the critical difference between SA and say any "Developed World" country is that over there, there is a palpable difference between those called "The Criminals" and those called "The Police".

Over here in sunny SA, you'd be hard pressed (and mugged and shot at and and and) to tell the difference most times between the Criminals and the Cops. Witness the frequency with which we replace our police commissioners not because they're in the line of fire but since they're in the line for back-pocket packets. Of Money!

Another factor is: Social Services and of course "Serving the Public Trust".
We in SA know so little of what these are that most reading this will have to Google it to find out exactly what these terms mean. And once one has seen the benefits of living in a co-operative, civilised society that has these characteristics, it's hard to justify living in the opposite which is a hostile, barbaric society like South Africa.

Ask yourself a very simple question: If your car were to break down, would a random stranger stop and try and help? Would you stop to help a random stranger stranded by the side of the road?
No. We fear all sorts of things and trust no other member of the public. With anything.

And this costs heaps in money, tension, stress and so forth if you cannot rely on the "Public Trust" for anything.

And this is why people emigrate. Why pay so much tax when all that happens is it's either thrown back into your face with some racial insult and threats or thrown down the black hole. The very very black hole.

[OmegaFenix]

People going over expecting a utopia are in for a rude awakening. Yes there is crime every where but the deciding factor for me is a small thing called Affirmative Action. You know how nice it is to apply for jobs and not see "BEE-Position" or "Only Affirmative Action candidates need apply" in job ads. As for the people complaining about the weather... Summer weather is slightly cooler than ours and their winters are nice and chilly. I, having lived there for two years, never quite got the whole "miserable people" thing. So yeah.

[czc]

Yup, I went to London with my family 2 years ago, and the first day I went there, we saw a guy on a superbike rob a jewelry store and it was on the news that night. Crime happens everywhere. In this country you just need to be streetwise and try to not set yourself up for anything dodgy, as much as you can.

When I was in the shopping centers banking quarter and okes came running in AK47's blazing it didn't make the evening news.

[eugenekoen]

crime....why look at crime as crime. we should love each other and show each other respect and then crime will go down because we look out for each other our country is so full of rich diversity and we need to embrace that and never let go. positive things happen to people who are positive and also do something to show other people that they are positive so that they could also become positive love your neighbour as you love yourself

[OmegaFenix]

crime....why look at crime as crime. we should love each other and show each other respect and then crime will go down because we look out for each other our country is so full of rich diversity and we need to embrace that and never let go. positive things happen to people who are positive and also do something to show other people that they are positive so that they could also become positive love your neighbour as you love yourself

Maybe in some fantasy world but here in the real world it doesn't work like that. Bad things happen to good people, most often they happen more the good people than bad people. All the happy thoughts, pyramid power, optimism, hugging and free-love in the multiverse can and will not change human nature. Our country is falling apart and is slipping down the slope on its way to joining the rest of the dark continent and your talking about love your neighbor - fuck him & his fat wife. The world is about 1 thing - survival of the fittest. If it came down to me surviving meant you had to die, i would bash your head in with a brick in less time it took me to type out this post.

[DenSweeP]

The world is about 1 thing - survival of the fittest. If it came down to me surviving meant you had to die, i would bash your head in with a brick in less time it took me to type out this post.

Then why leave SA? Seems to me like a cop-out. If someone is supposed to be the fittest to survive, shouldn't you be able to survive anywhere, SA included? In fact, by staying in SA, we are proving ourselves to be better than the rest of the world by being able to survive is supposedly tough conditions...