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    He does have a fair point.

    Yes, it's true that there are probably guys out there who want to use their PS3's for legit purposes - that's great. But how many guys are going to take that information and turn the PS3 into a platform with a major piracy issue. Oh wait ...

    The PS3 Piracy scene is now open after George Geohot Hotz released firmware 3.55 jailbreak

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    PSOne was heavily pirated. At one point, you could even buy the games at the side of the road (Hendrik Potgieter road is one). I am not a big fan of piracy in general, since it deprives the market of money that could go to further research and development. Sony has just been trying to protect their "corporate assets" and trying to curb piracy on one of their most popular (actually, most popular imho) products.

    Even though it is really cool that you can run Linux on a PS3 (I would want to see that), I like the idea that some idiot isn't selling pirated versions of the games an moering the profits into his pocket. I would much rather see it going to the developers (although the publishers make the most money out of this deal). If that means, no jailbreaking, then I am happy with that.

    EDIT: Okay here Sony actually agreed to Linux installations, but this is actually for a just cause. I can live with that.
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    That's what she said.

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    Out of everybody that was crying foul when Sony went after Geohot claiming that they just want Linux support back I would be surprised if 3% actually had any intention of installing Linux on it. The rest just wanted an open door to Pirate games. I've stood in a CNA looking at Xbox titles and heard a couple of guyz talking about how they just ripped this new title and they still need to rip that. Its this attitude of "I want it 4 free" or "Moochers/Parasites" as I like to call them.
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    orly, I was going with being greedy asshats, but to each his own... I expect to see a Sony-Apple sPhone in the future, so locked down you can't even take pictures with it unless the great sony-apple says its okay...

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    No Sony.
    You didn't get hacked for protecting anything.
    If you were being so "protective", shouldn't PROTECTION have taken utmost importance?
    With that said, the exploit used was known to Sony for 4-5 years before the hack. Sony ACTIVELY decided to do NOTHING.
    "Protect our IP" my sweet a**!

    You got hacked because you farked your customers over.
    The end.

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    When they say they acted to protect their IP they are referring to Intellectual Property - not the servers and networks that got invaded.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shadowfox View Post
    When they say they acted to protect their IP they are referring to Intellectual Property - not the servers and networks that got invaded.
    Well aren't we the pack of smarties today!
    I am very well aware which IP they meant.

    If they wanted to protect their INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY, wouldn't step 1 have been to close security hole in exact same INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY 5 years ago when it was first found?

    Just so happens that protecting said INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY also has everything to do with how they run their INTERNET PROTOCOL address and attached networks and services.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wheunis View Post
    Well aren't we the pack of smarties today!
    I am very well aware which IP they meant.

    If they wanted to protect their INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY, wouldn't step 1 have been to close security hole in exact same INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY 5 years ago when it was first found?

    Just so happens that protecting said INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY also has everything to do with how they run their INTERNET PROTOCOL address and attached networks and services.
    I fail to see the logic there. The intellectual property they were trying to protect was the operating system and firmware of the console, which wouldn't be floating around on their web servers. And what security hole would you be referring to? The same one where, once the device is bought, it moves beyond their control and into the clutches of a person who can do whatever they want with it save for terms & conditions attached to the device?

    It's cause & effect.

    Geohotz and his mates ignored those terms and conditions, jailbreaked and distributed the hacks to the internet at large making it possible for piracy to become a problem - thereby putting Sony's partners at risk of losing income as well. Sony acted to shut them down and prevent the spread - something they were well within their rights to do, rights contained in said terms and conditions attached to the device - there's your cause.

    Here's your effect - as a result of that action, LulzSec and Anonymous took action and attacked Sony's web servers - they didn't touch Sony's intellectual property, they went after Sony because Sony were trying to protect what was rightfully theirs. Yes - there were massive holes in their server security, and the two groups used some relatively simple attacks to gain access to the web servers and information on them - which didn't happen to be Sony's IP, but rather the information of users using those networks.

    The two are related, yet entirely seperate.

    Furthermore, no need to get aggressive. I was stating an opinion - you don't need to attack me for it, although you are free to disagree. Your initial post was a little muddled - since in reading that, the understanding would be that Sony got hacked because they didn't up the security on their servers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shadowfox View Post
    And what security hole would you be referring to?
    Twofold.

    First, the gap that allowed GeoHot access to the Hypervisor (the shitty keys system) was known right from the start.
    Second, the exploit hackers used to gain access to the network via a dev console, was also known within a few months of PSN going live.

    Pick your poison.
    They didn't protect a damn thing...

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