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    Quote Originally Posted by OmegaFenix View Post
    I will not rehash this argument.

    If I make something and sell it, you make a copy of what I made and give it away for free therefore affecting my sales you are stealing from me. Just because it doesn't line up with a pre-digital definition of theft doesn't mean that piracy isn't theft.
    If you make something what? Physically or digitally?

    But nonetheless, lets move on shall we?

    Counter rebuttal. What happens when 3D scanning and printing becomes cheaper? It is already here, just not cheap enough for the average Joe.

    If you design the next best uber fuel saving motor, and I break into your place and 3D scan and print it for myself, is it considered theft?

    Quote Originally Posted by MOnk View Post
    Aye was about to say, you are still robbing someone of a potential sale hence denying them the money they would have made. Nor do I see how it creates artificial scarcity, I can go to the Steam store any time of day, any day of the week and buy every single game in their catalogue. Just because I have to pay for it doesn't make it scarce.
    No. If someone copyright infringes, they would never have bought it in the first place.

    However, there are some circumstances where people actually do buy the game after they have copyright infringed.

    I have bought Sins of the Solar Empire after I copyright infringed, because it was so freakin cool.

    What people should do rather than trying to fight copyright infringement, is to have demo's and shareware versions.. anyone remember those days?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuga View Post
    If you design the next best uber fuel saving motor, and I break into your place and 3D scan and print it for myself, is it considered theft?
    I'm sorry but I am unable (or more accurately unwilling) to debate this topic, or any other topic, with anyone stupid enough to pose an as utterly moronic a question as the one above to me & expect anything but the most sarcastic reply my not inconsiderable mind can compile.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kuga View Post
    What people should do rather than trying to fight copyright infringement, is to have demo's and shareware versions.. anyone remember those days?
    FYI there still are demos....
    Last edited by OmegaFenix; 26-01-2012 at 08:10 PM.
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    Kuga I've had many debates with my comp sci buddies over the pros and cons of intellectual property and copyright law but the arguments you're putting forward now are just silly.

    If you design the next best uber fuel saving motor, and I break into your place and 3D scan and print it for myself, is it considered theft?
    HELL YES!

    If I spent 10years of my life working to create this amazing new zero fuel super motor and you come without spending a dime on it's development and just copy the thing, and sell it for less than I can since you didn't have recoup the dev money, then DAMN STRAIGHT YOU ARE STEALING FROM ME.

    No. If someone copyright infringes, they would never have bought it in the first place.
    That's just straight up bullsht. You are also confusing the game piracy scene with the greater intellectual property theft argument. If I make this amazing new software product that lets you do your job 10x faster and 10x better and instead of buying my software you just pirate it, then you are stealing from me AND you are most certainly a customer who would have bought it otherwise.

    As for the demos to stop piracy argument, it's quite literally lol worthy.

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