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    Hi all

    We are moving house soon, and this means I will need to set-up a network from scratch again soon.
    I am concedering looking at using EoP for this as the Study and Living room will not be to close to each other.

    Any one using this technology?

    I found this that I could get to do the job:

    http://www.bidorbuy.co.za/item/58463...s_through.html

    Comments and ideas?

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    It's power over ethernet

    To the point though, never used it personally since it's not really necessary? Unless you don't have enough power plugs in your home. Generally PoE hardware is more expensive.

    It's used more in big network setups, with hundreds of users where they will have PoE switches to power all their phones etc. For home use I don't really see the point.


    PS. Ethernet over power, on the other hand, sounds quite cool. Then we could pay Eskom for our internet

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    Nope different Tech

    I want to use the house's electric grid as the Ethernet network, thus not run network cables between my study and lounge.

    Link to suppliers: http://www.dbg.co.za/product_info.ph...roducts_id=750

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    I'm currently using Western Digital's Livewire for this. Works quite nice and I see there's a newer version out. You don't get the full advertised speeds though, think mine is like 8Mbps or something, advertised as up to 200Mbps. Depends on your wiring and other electrical stuff. Also, if you want to use it, it needs it's own power plug, can't use a multiplug or something similiar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by m3n4ce View Post
    Nope different Tech

    I want to use the house's electric grid as the Ethernet network, thus not run network cables between my study and lounge.

    Link to suppliers: http://www.dbg.co.za/product_info.ph...roducts_id=750
    Oh jeez, I didn't even realize! I feel like a chop now.

    On topic, this is pretty cool man. So I take it you plug this hardware into a wall plug and that device has an ethernet port?

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    Quote Originally Posted by to0kenZA View Post
    Oh jeez, I didn't even realize! I feel like a chop now.

    On topic, this is pretty cool man. So I take it you plug this hardware into a wall plug and that device has an ethernet port?
    That is the idea im too lazy to run cabling, but then again might be better solution at the end of the day.


    Quote Originally Posted by Nemesis View Post
    I'm currently using Western Digital's Livewire for this. Works quite nice and I see there's a newer version out. You don't get the full advertised speeds though, think mine is like 8Mbps or something, advertised as up to 200Mbps. Depends on your wiring and other electrical stuff. Also, if you want to use it, it needs it's own power plug, can't use a multiplug or something similiar.

    I quickly did a search, it seems they are going for around R1000. Not THAT expensive, since it has 4 ports where the earlier one I posted has only 1 port. But is it worth getting this above running a dedicated Network cable.

    http://www.mydigitallife.co.za/index...ets&Itemid=134

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    I remember experimenting with that at my old work when it was still very new. It worked, but the speeds were super slow (about 6Mbps). This was probably 7-8 years ago though, so I'm sure the technology has evolved since then (I see that one says up to 200Mbps, so it must have).

    Why not just do wi-fi though? Then you don't need an adapter per network point. If the range is too far, you can get an extra wireless access point, or wireless repeater. I think most wireless access points and routers support repeater mode so that you can extend a wireless network, and they will usually have a 4 port switch built in so you can have a wired option for non wi-fi devices in the room that you put it.

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    Definitely more convenient than running cable, but I don't know if that can justify the price. It's quite expensive still. If it's really a DIK mission (as in crawling in the roof for hours) to get the cable to the other side of the house for instance, I would rather buy the EoP solution just out of convenience/laziness

    Quote Originally Posted by matt View Post
    I remember experimenting with that at my old work when it was still very new. It worked, but the speeds were super slow (about 6Mbps). This was probably 7-8 years ago though, so I'm sure the technology has evolved since then (I see that one says up to 200Mbps, so it must have).

    Why not just do wi-fi though? Then you don't need an adapter per network point. If the range is too far, you can get an extra wireless access point, or wireless repeater. I think most wireless access points and routers support repeater mode so that you can extend a wireless network, and they will usually have a 4 port switch built in so you can have a wired option for non wi-fi devices in the room that you put it.
    Wireless is practical, but it will probably end up being more expensive. You'll need a router and the access point then, which will probably work out more than R1000 in the end. Not to mention having another point of failure with the access point. That EoP really looks like a schweet piece of tech, come to think of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by matt View Post
    I remember experimenting with that at my old work when it was still very new. It worked, but the speeds were super slow (about 6Mbps). This was probably 7-8 years ago though, so I'm sure the technology has evolved since then (I see that one says up to 200Mbps, so it must have).

    Why not just do wi-fi though? Then you don't need an adapter per network point. If the range is too far, you can get an extra wireless access point, or wireless repeater. I think most wireless access points and routers support repeater mode so that you can extend a wireless network, and they will usually have a 4 port switch built in so you can have a wired option for non wi-fi devices in the room that you put it.
    The problem with Wifi is speed. (might be true for EoP as well though). But I found streaming video from my PC to PS3 (using PS3 Media Server) gave issues when I tried to stream Higher Bit rate videos. (like HD MKV files). Maybe getting a faster Wifi router will solve this, but I dont think the PS3 can go up 300mbs in any case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by to0kenZA View Post
    Oh jeez, I didn't even realize! I feel like a chop now.

    On topic, this is pretty cool man. So I take it you plug this hardware into a wall plug and that device has an ethernet port?
    yep and its pretty dam awesome!
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