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    Windows 8 is a "catastrophe" says Valve's Gabe Newell

    Valve moving into Linux to “to hedge against that eventuality”

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    I hope this means even more Mac OS support also.
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    The biggest problem with building games for linux (and by relation OSX) is the lack of a strong unified API collection. People often overlook how critically important DirectX is to developers in the PC space.

    Porting these titles over to Linux/OSX generally results in devs having to rewrite parts of the software (specifically the parts that would be referencing the relevant API, obviously) support the only probably alternative at this point : OpenGL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by James View Post
    Windows 8 is a "catastrophe" says Valve's Gabe Newell
    Says the company having failed to produced episode 3... for how many years? Are they aiming to release another DNF ?

    Valve moving into Linux to “to hedge against that eventuality”

    He might have worked at Microsoft for thirteen years, but Valve boss Gabe Newell isn’t a big fan of the company’s new Windows OS at all, calling it a “catastrophe” in a recent interview.

    On the subject of Valve’s recent interest in Linux, Newell told All Things D that “The big problem that is holding back Linux is games. People don’t realise how critical games are in driving consumer purchasing behavior.”

    The big idea then is to put Steam on Linux so if Windows 8 bombs, the company has other options.

    “We want to make it as easy as possible for the 2,500 games on Steam to run on Linux as well. It’s a hedging strategy,” he explained. “I think Windows 8 is a catastrophe for everyone in the PC space. I think we’ll lose some of the top-tier PC/OEMs, who will exit the market. I think margins will be destroyed for a bunch of people. If that’s true, then it will be good to have alternatives to hedge against that eventuality.”

    Windows 8 launches in October. Steam for Linux launches whenever it’s ready. Who will triumph? Stay tuned.
    Would have been nice to know what his opinion is based on over just saying it is kak. If there is no relevant argument then his opinion is moot. Seems that the whole point of the retort was to punt the issues with Linux and games.
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    Well the biggest new feature Windows 8 is brining to the table is Metro and metro is a closed system. Afaik you can only buy/sell Metro apps through Microsoft's App marketplace, hence if you want to develop in that space you are forced into an ecosystem which is basically counter to everything good about PCs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MOnk View Post
    Well the biggest new feature Windows 8 is brining to the table is Metro and metro is a closed system. Afaik you can only buy/sell Metro apps through Microsoft's App marketplace, hence if you want to develop in that space you are forced into an ecosystem which is basically counter to everything good about PCs.
    And iTune apps works on my xbox, nds or pc?

    Still waiting for this awestruck argument against windows 8. Sure if it has valid reasons lets pass on windows 8, but if there is none it is fail.

    I can't help to feel that this is just joined in by stoepkakkertjies without looking at the facts first.

    Again who is forcing you to buy it?

    Going to play with the rtm as soon as it hits msdn or the 7 seas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MOnk View Post
    Well the biggest new feature Windows 8 is brining to the table is Metro and metro is a closed system. Afaik you can only buy/sell Metro apps through Microsoft's App marketplace, hence if you want to develop in that space you are forced into an ecosystem which is basically counter to everything good about PCs.
    But you don't -have- to use metro afaik? It's completely optional, so you can still switch to the classic Windows UI if you want? Or am I wrong here?

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    I totally agree with the guy, Windows 8 is not great at all. Its the next Windows Vista.
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    Quote Originally Posted by okuhle94 View Post
    I totally agree with the guy, Windows 8 is not great at all. Its the next Windows Vista.
    Case and point. All bark and no argument presented.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pr⊕phet View Post
    And iTune apps works on my xbox, nds or pc?
    I think you may need a few more words to explain yourself more clearly. In any case comparing it to iOS is exactly the problem iOS is a closed system and in that system you would never get a GoG, Steam, Origin, Gamersgate, ect... because they just wouldn't be allowed.

    Any time you have a gatekeeper dictating what is and isn't allowed it will slow progress and innovation but most importantly stifle competition.

    Quote Originally Posted by Strifehart View Post
    But you don't -have- to use metro afaik? It's completely optional, so you can still switch to the classic Windows UI if you want? Or am I wrong here?
    No you don't have to use Metro but it's the main feature of Windows 8 and if a developer wants to develop metro apps because customers want a metro app, they are forced to work under Microsoft's rule.

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