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    Quote Originally Posted by TBlaar View Post
    Unless you go with KAK cybersmart, who advertise their inability to shape their network due to technical skill, and call this unshaped, ie. no preference of ports or services, just slower in general.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MOnk View Post
    I would say most ISPs have taken an active interest in gaming and have tried to optimise their networks for gaming
    Cybersmart is definitely not one of those ISPs. +50ms latency on any server, constant spikes and disconnects. Been having this problem since I signed up with them. Want to change my ISP but can't really afford it right now since Cybersmart has the cheapest 384k uncapped offering.
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    OK, so here's my experience:

    I have recently moved from Cybersmart to MWEB, and I am very happy. I currently have and pay for 1MB Uncapped from both, and have a 2MB circuit from Cybersmart.

    A few things I have noticed:
    - On MWEB, I am able to RDP into my home computer even when that PC is downloading at MAX. On Cybersmart, I was unable to get into my home PC via RDP (port 3389) most of the time. MWEB must be prioritising this port traffic or something.
    - With MWEB currently, right now, I am downloading at 160kbps on my 1MB account! I switch to Cybersmart right now, and I get about 12kbps - 40kbps, up and down(same downloads, using uTorrent). MWEB is much faster, even faster than it's supposed to be, right now during the day. I wonder what I get at night???
    - MWEB is contactable, I have called and had the first person able to help me. With Cybersmart, usually they say any kak to get me off the phone.
    - The MWEB website is understandable, and I don't get logged out every time I want to view another page.
    - I canceled all my Cybersmart services, including circuit rental. Two days ago I get a call from Cybersmart saying that I should keep the circuit with them, as Telkom does not have any available circuits in my area. After contacting Telkom, they say that this is not true. Did Cybersmart phone me and LIE to me in my ear????? Seriously????? I did decide to keep the circuit with Cybersmart though, as they are cheaper than Telkom, and Telkom wants to charge me R666 to install the circuit!!!! FFS!!!! with a 6-8week waiting time.

    So I am a happy MWEB chappy, really impressed with them. I know you all may have other experiences, but mine thus far is excellent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TBlaar View Post
    OK, so here's my experience:

    I have recently moved from Cybersmart to MWEB, and I am very happy. I currently have and pay for 1MB Uncapped from both, and have a 2MB circuit from Cybersmart.

    A few things I have noticed:
    - On MWEB, I am able to RDP into my home computer even when that PC is downloading at MAX. On Cybersmart, I was unable to get into my home PC via RDP (port 3389) most of the time. MWEB must be prioritising this port traffic or something.
    - With MWEB currently, right now, I am downloading at 160kbps on my 1MB account! I switch to Cybersmart right now, and I get about 12kbps - 40kbps, up and down(same downloads, using uTorrent). MWEB is much faster, even faster than it's supposed to be, right now during the day. I wonder what I get at night???
    - MWEB is contactable, I have called and had the first person able to help me. With Cybersmart, usually they say any kak to get me off the phone.
    - The MWEB website is understandable, and I don't get logged out every time I want to view another page.
    - I canceled all my Cybersmart services, including circuit rental. Two days ago I get a call from Cybersmart saying that I should keep the circuit with them, as Telkom does not have any available circuits in my area. After contacting Telkom, they say that this is not true. Did Cybersmart phone me and LIE to me in my ear????? Seriously????? I did decide to keep the circuit with Cybersmart though, as they are cheaper than Telkom, and Telkom wants to charge me R666 to install the circuit!!!! FFS!!!! with a 6-8week waiting time.

    So I am a happy MWEB chappy, really impressed with them. I know you all may have other experiences, but mine thus far is excellent.
    Big-Massive-Huge-GALACTIC + 1

    I will pay a little more to get that extra bit from Mweb, having your line sync at 2Mb/s is awesome I am getting 150Kb/s on all my downloads with my 1Mb
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    Been with Mweb basically since they launched their uncapped product and I've been very happy with what I've gotten.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TBlaar View Post
    OK, so here's my experience:

    I have recently moved from Cybersmart to MWEB, and I am very happy. I currently have and pay for 1MB Uncapped from both, and have a 2MB circuit from Cybersmart.

    A few things I have noticed:
    - On MWEB, I am able to RDP into my home computer even when that PC is downloading at MAX. On Cybersmart, I was unable to get into my home PC via RDP (port 3389) most of the time. MWEB must be prioritising this port traffic or something.
    - With MWEB currently, right now, I am downloading at 160kbps on my 1MB account! I switch to Cybersmart right now, and I get about 12kbps - 40kbps, up and down(same downloads, using uTorrent). MWEB is much faster, even faster than it's supposed to be, right now during the day. I wonder what I get at night???
    - MWEB is contactable, I have called and had the first person able to help me. With Cybersmart, usually they say any kak to get me off the phone.
    - The MWEB website is understandable, and I don't get logged out every time I want to view another page.
    - I canceled all my Cybersmart services, including circuit rental. Two days ago I get a call from Cybersmart saying that I should keep the circuit with them, as Telkom does not have any available circuits in my area. After contacting Telkom, they say that this is not true. Did Cybersmart phone me and LIE to me in my ear????? Seriously????? I did decide to keep the circuit with Cybersmart though, as they are cheaper than Telkom, and Telkom wants to charge me R666 to install the circuit!!!! FFS!!!! with a 6-8week waiting time.

    So I am a happy MWEB chappy, really impressed with them. I know you all may have other experiences, but mine thus far is excellent.
    Exactly! That's why in my opinion mweb is the best ISp around atm
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    So should I get The 1mb unshped or afrihost 10mb account
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    Torrents are a really bad way to check what speeds you are getting based on the fact that you are dependent on seeds etc etc...

    Unshaped will always be better than shaped when you are running on a link that hasn't congested.

    When you have shaped then you are dealing with the QoS the ISP runs on those links and any ISP with half of a brain will drop peer to peer filesharing 1st, because that is the things that chows bandwidth the most since people download a lot with it and no normal person has anything important using these protocols.

    Also sync speed on your router is in bits and download speed gets done in bytes. You will always download at roughly 10% of your sync speed in your router. (there are 8 bits in every byte)

    Unshaped also gets better preference on the ISP networks. Hope this helps.
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    Unshaped means that your downloads will not be 'shaped' because someone else is browsing.
    That means that if you're downloading, you have the same 'priority' as someone googling or downloading mail or surfing

    So unshaped is much better for us gamers
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    Quote Originally Posted by TBlaar View Post
    OK, so here's my experience:

    I have recently moved from Cybersmart to MWEB, and I am very happy. I currently have and pay for 1MB Uncapped from both, and have a 2MB circuit from Cybersmart.

    A few things I have noticed:
    - On MWEB, I am able to RDP into my home computer even when that PC is downloading at MAX. On Cybersmart, I was unable to get into my home PC via RDP (port 3389) most of the time. MWEB must be prioritising this port traffic or something.
    - With MWEB currently, right now, I am downloading at 160kbps on my 1MB account! I switch to Cybersmart right now, and I get about 12kbps - 40kbps, up and down(same downloads, using uTorrent). MWEB is much faster, even faster than it's supposed to be, right now during the day. I wonder what I get at night???
    - MWEB is contactable, I have called and had the first person able to help me. With Cybersmart, usually they say any kak to get me off the phone.
    - The MWEB website is understandable, and I don't get logged out every time I want to view another page.
    - I canceled all my Cybersmart services, including circuit rental. Two days ago I get a call from Cybersmart saying that I should keep the circuit with them, as Telkom does not have any available circuits in my area. After contacting Telkom, they say that this is not true. Did Cybersmart phone me and LIE to me in my ear????? Seriously????? I did decide to keep the circuit with Cybersmart though, as they are cheaper than Telkom, and Telkom wants to charge me R666 to install the circuit!!!! FFS!!!! with a 6-8week waiting time.

    So I am a happy MWEB chappy, really impressed with them. I know you all may have other experiences, but mine thus far is excellent.
    To add to the above....

    I have recently been getting around 0.5M speeds, with the latest speedtest being 0.16M down. MWEB claims that this is Telkom's exchange, as my first ping is already around 600ms... Damn, will try and get this resolved via Cybersmart, as they have my circuit...
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    If you go with MWEB and download a lot, they'll tell you to get an unshaped account.
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