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    This is the best model that current physicists have for the early development of the universe (it is based on observed and testable evidence)
    It's a hypothesis , there is just as much proof of the big bang as there is of God ( the bible is proof enough for me, but speaking from an atheistic POV). Close to nothing.


    For a theist to assert that something must have created the universe as we know it, and that something is a god being of some kind, the logic can be extended to ask who created that god being?Did the god appear from nothing, or was it created by an even more powerful and mysterious god being?
    A God, in context of monotheistic religion is a supreme being, aka omnipotent, omnipresent, omniscience. There is only one. A god cannot create another god with the same attributes. Then who is God, if there are multiple gods being the same all the while?

    God is often conceived as the supreme being and principal object of faith.
    To stop at the particular god a theist wants to be in charge is special pleading, suggesting that the god is exempt from the rules of logic and reasoning. At that point the argument has broken down, and it brings us no closer to understanding the origins of the universe.
    Right, that's where faith comes in. As I said, in monotheistic religions it clearly states that there is only one God.

    suggesting that the god is exempt from the rules of logic and reasoning
    Well, if it's a god, he is a creator. Why should he be subject to the laws of his own creation if he created the laws?

    By the way I was talking about atheism, who deny that there is no deity at all. If you deny that there is no deity who created the universe, who created the universe then?
    Last edited by Lyt; 07-06-2013 at 05:05 PM.

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