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    Or maybe you should realise that it's simply humour, not bible bashing? I'm sorry, but religion is not exempt from being material for jokes. If you can't accept that, that's your problem, not ours. If someone posts a joke that is actually intended offensively, then you've got a leg to stand on, but currently, you don't.

    Saying "God is an imaginary friend for grown-ups," that's an offensive joke and is meant to offend. That kind of joke shouldn't be allowed here. Making jokes about a sequel to the bible? No. That's neither offensive nor intended to be offensive.

    You're more than welcome to be offended. That's your right, but you don't have the right to have anyone actually care about you being offended by light-hearted jokes.

    Unless you want us to ban things every time someone with sensitive sensibilities gets offended? Someone finds the discussion of ham offensive because it's against his religious beliefs. Let's ban discussions of ham. Someone finds jokes about blondes offensive. Let's ban blonde jokes.

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    Yip your absolutely correct.

    You know as well as I do that religion is a very sensitive topic and it does not belong on a gaming forum.

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    Fair points have been raised on both sides about the discussion of religion. People are entitled to discuss whatever they wish and religious topics aren't outright banned on MyGaming - it's more like they are frowned upon for their eye-rolling nature which can often degenerate into a nasty fight.

    If a conversation drifts into combative and malicious territory, then I will have to shut it down.

    The problem with a religious debate is that it is best done in a structured and moderated manner to ensure people keep their heads cool - otherwise we get the explosive shitstorms of the kind found on MyBB.

    With religion being such a sensitive topic for some, I can see why discussing it would undermine a happy environment.

    Perhaps we should just have a tacit agreement to avoid the subject on MyGaming?

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    Religious debates are pretty pointless anyway, you're never going to change anyone's mind, especially on a forum.

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    I'll agree to that suggestion if we are unable to reach another solution, but I don't think it's an ideal solution because it's ultimately pandering to oversensitive sensibilities. Being religious does not mean you have the right to demand nobody makes jokes about religious matter in the same way that me being homosexual doesn't grant me the right to demand that people not make jokes about homosexuals.

    If the joke has a clearly malicious intent, then it's a different matter altogether, but the jokes in this were clearly not malicious in their intent. Just because a joke is religious in nature does not mean it is malicious and you have no right to impede our right to free speech by demanding we make absolutely no religious jokes.

    As I said, if you take offence at a light-hearted joke that is not malicious in nature, then that's your problem and yours alone. Don't make it anyone else's problem. You have the right to be offended (however misguided your offence is), but you do not have the right to demand anyone care about the fact that you're offended.

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    I think religious topics here should be allowed and monitored very closely and strictly, the minute someone steps outta line the thread gets shut down.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Graal View Post
    I'll agree to that suggestion if we are unable to reach another solution, but I don't think it's an ideal solution because it's ultimately pandering to oversensitive sensibilities. Being religious does not mean you have the right to demand nobody makes jokes about religious matter in the same way that me being homosexual doesn't grant me the right to demand that people not make jokes about homosexuals.
    All you are trying to do is justify that you can say what you want, anyway you want regardless of who you offend. A bit if self regulation would be nice.

    If the joke has a clearly malicious intent, then it's a different matter altogether, but the jokes in this were clearly not malicious in their intent. Just because a joke is religious in nature does not mean it is malicious and you have no right to impede our right to free speech by demanding we make absolutely no religious jokes.
    Who judges the intent? The poster? Really?

    As I said, if you take offence at a light-hearted joke that is not malicious in nature, then that's your problem and yours alone. Don't make it anyone else's problem. You have the right to be offended (however misguided your offence is), but you do not have the right to demand anyone care about the fact that you're offended.
    Now we need permission from you to be offended?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fivel View Post
    All you are trying to do is justify that you can say what you want, anyway you want regardless of who you offend. A bit if self regulation would be nice.
    No, I'm justifying the right to free speech and not having topics banned simply because some people with overly sensitive sensibilities take offence at the slightest provocation. Would you rather we ban a topic every time someone takes offence for no apparent reason?

    Religion is not free from being the subject-matter of jokes, the same way that politics is no free from it, homosexuality is not free from it and any other number of subjects is not free from being the subject matter of jokes.

    If someone wants to take offence because someone made a humorous picture of a sequel to the bible, that's their problem. They have to deal with it, not us.

    Now we need permission from you to be offended?
    No, you're more than welcome to be offended. What I'm saying is just don't expect anyone to care.

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    But let's flip this around.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fivel View Post
    All you are trying to do is justify that you can say what you want, anyway you want regardless of who you offend. A bit if self regulation would be nice.
    All you are trying to do is justify that you can dictate what people are allowed to say, regardless of whether it is actually offensive or not. A bit of a reality check would be nice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Graal View Post
    But why? We tolerate jokes about politics, homosexuality, race, ethnicity etc, as long as they're in good taste. Why should religion be any different. As long as nobody is mocking the religion, mocking people for being religious or is somehow meant to imply that being religious is bad, what's the problem?

    A joke saying christian's are stupid, that I can understand. But jokes about sequels to the Bible? The very notion of that somehow being a taboo is absurd. If your sensibilities are so sensitive that you cannot stomach people horsing about about a sequel to the bible, maybe you shouldn't be on the internet in the first place?

    People joke about things. Religion included. You have the right to be offended, of course, but unless the jokes are meant in a mean-spirited way, don't expect anyone to care.
    Religious jokes are a far more sensitive topic than sexual preference or race jokes. IMHO.

    I'd (personally) treat race and sexuality jokes with more humour.
    Religion is a not something to joke about, regardless of how small or insignificant the joke itself may appear.


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