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    Quote Originally Posted by Vampothic View Post
    Religious jokes are a far more sensitive topic than sexual preference or race jokes. IMHO.

    I'd (personally) treat race and sexuality jokes with more humour.
    Religion is a not something to joke about, regardless of how small or insignificant the joke itself may appear.
    Why not? Surely God is big enough to defend himself against some jokes? Or does he need helpers to defend him?

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    Where is it stated that race jokes or sexual preference jokes are more acceptable over religious ones?

    What about a gay guy moaning about the sexual preference jokes? Or the black guy moaning about teh race jokes? Nothing similar to "Religion is a not something to joke about, regardless of how small or insignificant the joke itself may appear." would be said, I promise you that. That's why I said earlier, hypocrites.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pooky View Post
    Why not? Surely God is big enough to defend himself against some jokes? Or does he need helpers to defend him?
    God needn't have to defend himself.
    Some find humour in these things - I don't. Period.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Vampothic View Post
    Religious jokes are a far more sensitive topic than sexual preference or race jokes. IMHO.
    I'm sorry, but according to who? Who decides which topics are sensitive or not?

    What about when people come about and bitch and moan about homosexual or race jokes? Are we going to ban those too? How about blonde jokes. A blonde person might come and take offence about that.

    I really hate to break it to you, but religion is not a special case and it is not afforded any special privileges over other topics and it is most certainly not any more sensitive than any other topic. People are just as justified in making religious jokes as they are in making jokes about lesbians. If you don't like it, then sorry, that's not our problem.

    I don't go up to Jimmy Carr and tell him "Homosexuality is a not something to joke about, regardless of how small or insignificant the joke itself may appear." I don't see why religion should be treated any differently.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vampothic View Post
    god needn't have to defend himself.
    exactly


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    Quote Originally Posted by Graal View Post
    I'm sorry, but according to who? Who decides which topics are sensitive or not?
    According to IMHO (In MY Honest Opinion). Opinion, how I personally feel about something.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Vampothic View Post
    According to IMHO (In MY Honest Opinion). Opinion, how I personally feel about something.
    Well then, I think the answer is very obvious in this case. You taking offence at religious jokes is your problem, not ours. You have to deal with it, not us.

    The fact that you find homosexual or race jokes fine, but religious jokes are somehow taboo is also incredibly hypocritical of you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Graal View Post
    Well then, I think the answer is very obvious in this case. You taking offence at religious jokes is your problem, not ours. You have to deal with it, not us.

    The fact that you find homosexual or race jokes fine, but religious jokes are somehow taboo is also incredibly hypocritical of you.
    The fact that you find homosexual or race jokes fine
    Wrong!
    I never said I condone jokes about sexual preference or race. I stated that I find religious jokes more offensive than those.


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    Not that I'm trying to pick on you, but that's still somewhat hypocritical. Either something is offensive and you don't want people joking about it, or it isn't. You cannot have degrees of offense without being hypocritical. Someone else might find homosexual jokes more offensive than religious jokes.

    Regardless, we've gone off on a slightly different tangent. My point is that I do not think any topic should be banned simply because a handful of members take offence. Taking offence is not a sign that a topic should not be allowed to be discussed. In this case I think the reasons for people taking offence are completely invalid.

    Religion is not any more special than any other topic that comes under discussion on these forums and it should not be afforded any rights that are not afforded any other topic. If we ban religious discussion simply because a handful of members take offence, then we should expect to do the same for all topics across the board, otherwise it will be unfair towards anybody else. We'd have to afford the same privileges to anyone who gets offended at anything.

    People of different races, homosexual people, metalheads, Beliebers, Bioware fans; they all should then be able to demand we ban discussion of those topics if they so much as just claim to be offended.
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    My 2 cents (This is a trap isn't it):

    The truth of the matter is that any topic (and I mean literally) has the potential to offend people, so that raises the question of where the line should be drawn between what's acceptable and what isn't.

    With that in mind, who has the authority to define where the line should be drawn? And whosoever deemed that person's opinion of where the line should be drawn as valid?

    Another question that comes to mind is why does anyone who is offended by religious, racial, or political jokes, even jokes about state of health, and jokes that cover every other topic, have any more right than anyone else in the list to have that specific topic off-limits?

    Who decides that? Anything can offend anyone. That's because we're all different people (past 7 Billion not too long ago), and that's fair enough. But if one topic is off limits, we may as well stop talking or joking because there is no reliable scale to determine which topics should get preference in terms of tip toeing.

    Unless of course you've never made a joke or discussed any topic, then maybe you're that one truly objective person who has the authority to draw the line

    Personally, I'm a Christian, but those jokes didn't offend me because I took them as banter in the same I way I take racial banter, in the same way some homosexuals take their dose of banter, even some blondes, some gingers, some paraplegics, etc. Why? because, it plainly doesn't affect me or them or suddenly change my outlook on anything...

    Who has the authority to draw the line, that's all I ask you?

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