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    Of all the games displayed at E3 2013, Pro Evolution Soccer 2014 was certainly one of the more surprising. While the series still languishes behinds EA Sports' insurmountable genre lead with its FIFA franchise, it manages to find a place among football purists. Its success in Japan has always been assured — it is a Japanese-developed game, afterall — but its growth must come in Europe and North America, which is no easy task.

    Can PES possibly take the thrown from FIFA this year? I think it can. Here's why.

    New engine, new game

    Led by creative producer Kei Masuda, the team at PES Productions is working to reinvigorate the franchise with something fresh and risky, building an entirely new game engine that helps PES 2014 look completely different to anything that's come before it.

    AI smarter than a fifth-grader

    Yet the redesign goes beyond simply making the animations and graphics look more realistic. The gameplay itself feels strangely original and unlike anything in the PES series before it. It's more FIFA 13 than PES 2013, and yet it has a distinctive personality that, impeccably so, smells of the PES uniqueness that has defined the series for over a decade. This is a game that wants nothing to do with those that came before it, but it still admires them nonetheless.

    Visually, the game has been given a significant upgrade, but these changes would have no bearing if it didn't have the AI and physics to back it up. These players look and react the way they do because of complex data analysis that has helped shape the game into something special.

    "We have reformed the AI so that the defensive players position themselves and think for themselves, like where to make an attack, and close in, and make a steal," Masuda explains. "This affects their decision making, like when to switch from a defensive mindset to an attacking one."

    Unforgiving, just like a true simulation

    The new engine has allowed PES Productions to advance this sort of player behaviour, ensuring players are able to analyse the position of all players on the fields, and not just those with and near the ball. This, as Masuda explains, would lead to better player placement, and a good balance between defensive and attacking mindsets on a team.

    "With the new system, you will have certain players who will analyse the chance that the ball may be stolen, so they will react defensively and remain in their position, rather than advance forward off their mark like in previous years."

    The matches in PES 2014 play out at a considerable different pace than in PES 2013. Players are wary of their position and surroundings, while the game itself is far less forgiving: much like how a wayward pass in NBA 2K13 almost always leads to a score down the other end, a mistake in PES 2014 can make or break a performance.

    Simplified controls

    The Fox Engine also brings interesting changes to the feeling of the players using the controller. NBA 2K13 is again a comparative example here, because the two games share a similar level of restrictive freedom, limiting how players are able to react to unstable circumstances. For example a player's field of movement while handling the ball appears smaller, and their capacity to perform a skill dribble is far more reliant on player skill than it was in PES 2013, which was far too forgiving in that department.

    It was fascinating to see just how much work had been put into evolving the PES experience. This is an entirely new game, one fuelled by a next-gen engine that enhances the possibilities for this once-dominating franchise. Konami wants PES back at the top of its class, and PES 2014 is certainly shaping up to be a step in the right direction.

    Available on: PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360 in Q4 2013.

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    On the PS2 I was a PES player. For years PES 3 was my ultimate sports game. PES 6 on the 360 forced me to move to FIFA. PES, though always admirable in its attempt just barely could not match FIFA in terms of gameplay, a lot of PES oft seemed too scripted instead of spontaneous. Im still a PES guy at heart though and really looking forward to this new iteration especially with news of the AI!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bradbear117 View Post
    On the PS2 I was a PES player. For years PES 3 was my ultimate sports game. PES 6 on the 360 forced me to move to FIFA. PES, though always admirable in its attempt just barely could not match FIFA in terms of gameplay, a lot of PES oft seemed too scripted instead of spontaneous. Im still a PES guy at heart though and really looking forward to this new iteration especially with news of the AI!
    You should try PES 13 if you haven't, it's a lot more technical than FIFA 13 IMO. On certain aspects like AI and technical gameplay (team mate controls, precision passing and shooting), PES feels a lot more elaborate and deliberate vs FIFA 13's slightly arcade-like, don't get me wrong, FIFA 13's has gameplay of the technical variety but it's not as in-depth as PES. Where PES falls slightly flat in the face of FIFA though, is in the player animations which look very rigid compared to FIFA's fluid animations, the collision engine and the 1st touch controls also introduced some intricate gameplay to FIFA as well.

    At the moment I'm playing both games for different reasons since they're both very different games for me right now. All in all, PES is the more simulator type game of the 2 while FIFA is the simulator/arcade mash up (especially in pacing).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saint_Dee View Post
    You should try PES 13 if you haven't, it's a lot more technical than FIFA 13 IMO. On certain aspects like AI and technical gameplay (team mate controls, precision passing and shooting), PES feels a lot more elaborate and deliberate vs FIFA 13's slightly arcade-like, don't get me wrong, FIFA 13's has gameplay of the technical variety but it's not as in-depth as PES. Where PES falls slightly flat in the face of FIFA though, is in the player animations which look very rigid compared to FIFA's fluid animations, the collision engine and the 1st touch controls also introduced some intricate gameplay to FIFA as well.

    At the moment I'm playing both games for different reasons since they're both very different games for me right now. All in all, PES is the more simulator type game of the 2 while FIFA is the simulator/arcade mash up (especially in pacing).
    Cool, Ill definitely look out for PES 13. Haven't tried FIFA 13. 12 is good enough for me for a long while still. Had PES 11 but the rigidity of the players put me off, as you said.

    Hey what do you think of the FIFA street series? Just started playing it last week and its tremendous fun!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bradbear117 View Post
    Cool, Ill definitely look out for PES 13. Haven't tried FIFA 13. 12 is good enough for me for a long while still. Had PES 11 but the rigidity of the players put me off, as you said.

    Hey what do you think of the FIFA street series? Just started playing it last week and its tremendous fun!
    Last time I played a FIFA Street game was back in the PS2 era, FIFA Street 2... And yes, epic fun

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    Really looking forward to this. PES13 was really good, they finally stepped up the sequel in a massive way and everything's looking good for 14. Even though I've played a lot more FIFA12/13 over the past 2 years, the gameplay just seems much more generic compared to PES in my opinion.

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