This is my first pc build. I will be using it for general gaming. Need some help...

[rootworm41]

Would never spend R800+ on water cooling to get a whole 10% increase. Would be such a waste.

A 10% increase on an already faster CPU...

[Wesley]

Thats actually a funny story, I ordered an "upgrade kit" comprising of my motherboard, ram, and cpu from computersonly.co.za and then they told me that they no longer have the 3.4ghz 4670k and instead gave me the 4430... was this a huge loss for me? they gave me an extra 4gb ram and paid for shipping?

Its not a bad chip, the Core i5-4430. Your games will certainly run well and I don't think you'll have any issues with it. The price difference between the i5-4430 and the i5-4670K is quite big though.

From Computersonly:
Core i5-4430 @ R2295
Core i5-4670K @ R2879 (difference of R584)

Core i5-4430 bundle @ R4699
Core i5-4670K bundle @ R5399 (difference of R700)

I'm not so sure what RAM they gave you and how much the shipping cost, but it does look like they were somewhat fair in their pricing, at least. Either way, they still made a little more profit than they would have if they had the K-series chip in there.

[RyanvF]

Well, seems like i did lose out quite a bit, would have much preferred the "k" series. but anyway, im just gonna make he best of what i can . im putting my pc together and i realised i dont have enough spacers and screws. anyone know where i could get some spares? i am not using a new case thats why some were missing.

[Wesley]

Go to any PC repair shop and ask them for some spares. Us techies always have craploads of spare screws and spacers lying around.

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Go to any PC repair shop and ask them for some spares. Us techies always have craploads of spare screws and spacers lying around.

when you go there get double how ever many you need...
you may need them later and it will save you a lot of effort.

[rootworm41]

when you go there get double how ever many you need...
you may need them later and it will save you a lot of effort.

He'll probably just loose them like any person (never mind techie) would

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He'll probably just loose them like any person (never mind techie) would

Then you must learn to keep all your small pc parts, screws and brackets store and organized neatly in a place close to your pc...

[rootworm41]

Then you must learn to keep all your small pc parts, screws and brackets store and organized neatly in a place close to your pc...

Easy to say...until you want to use them. Where are they!!(Me crying in my mind everytime I loose screws)

[RyanvF]

So I just put together all my hardware. Everythings in the case. Time to power up... system turns on but monitor stays black... no signal. ive got my screen plugged straight into the motherboard. The computer runs loud for a bit then just idles. for some reason when i touch the case i can feel electricity. never happened before, could it be because its on a tiled floor? Does anyone know of why my pc could possibly not be turning on?

[chan0o]

So I just put together all my hardware. Everythings in the case. Time to power up... system turns on but monitor stays black... no signal. ive got my screen plugged straight into the motherboard. The computer runs loud for a bit then just idles. for some reason when i touch the case i can feel electricity. never happened before, could it be because its on a tiled floor? Does anyone know of why my pc could possibly not be turning on?

Y u create another thread if you asking it here??
Also, see my answer in the other thread