Got your å and your ä confused a bit there, but otherwise well done!Originally Posted by FarligOpptreden
Jag år inte Norsk / Svensk / Dansk, jag år mycket skitbra South African!
(Said in my most rusty Swedish)
My alias is Norwegian, earned on a Scandinavian metal forum I've been visiting since 2005.
And thanks, I've been wondering for a while and waiting for an ideal opportunity to ask. Figure this thread was better than never
Had hoped you might be out in these parts
Tack! Hoping to move there someday, got loads of friends in those parts. My wife and I are mesmerized by the Scandinavian landscapes...Got your å and your ä confused a bit there, but otherwise well done!
And thanks, I've been wondering for a while and waiting for an ideal opportunity to ask. Figure this thread was better than never
Had hoped you might be out in these parts
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And here I thought us Germans were the only ones fated to death by umlauts...Got your å and your ä confused a bit there, but otherwise well done!
And thanks, I've been wondering for a while and waiting for an ideal opportunity to ask. Figure this thread was better than never
Had hoped you might be out in these parts
Protip: When dealing with Germans and their umlauts, substituting a "?u" is acceptable too for typed text/online (not handwritten).
i.e.
ü = ue
ö = oe
ä = ae
Or perhaps something you guys can relate to: In the movie Pacific Rim there are Jaegers...derived as per above from the German Jäger meaning hunter.
That said...if you want to kick up a shtstorm online...spell "uber" with an umlaut. (ALT-129). "über" being German for beyond/above. Thats where the expression comes from. It has limited merit in itself, but pretty much everyone backs down when faced with cross-language diacritic usage & their meanings. Personally I use neither...the one feels awkward for online use (über) and the other (uber) feels grammatically wrong. Still...a useful factoid for online battles.
Lycan...mind providing a 10 second summary as to wtf is going on in the scandinavian langs and their weird diacritics? I thought they do the å thing but apparently not.
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Yep. The Scandinavian countries do have a certain sense of "perfection" about them. If you take say Germany...there is perfection in many areas there (esp organization & efficiency), but with the Scandinavian countries pretty much *everything* seems near perfect. Health care, education, culture etc everything just seems to work...hell even nature seems to play ball with its perfect scenery.
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Scandinavian landscapes? Move north then
Southern Sweden (Skåne area) and Denmark are flat as a pancake. The landscape is incredibly boring--after ten minutes on the road, everything starts to look the same.
Further north (and in Norway, especially) you'll find the landscape gets a bit more character.
Unfortunately, haven't been there just yet
The Scandi languages all use the Å. Only difference is that Norway and Denmark use Ø and Æ whereas Sweden uses Ö and Ä. But it's pronounced the exact same way.
In Germany yes, I don't know if I'd say the same about the Scandinavian countries... Denmark is filthy as hell: graffiti and cigarette butts and litter everywhere (and yes, I've been everywhere in DenmarkYep. The Scandinavian countries do have a certain sense of "perfection" about them. If you take say Germany...there is perfection in many areas there (esp organization & efficiency), but with the Scandinavian countries pretty much *everything* seems near perfect. Health care, education, culture etc everything just seems to work...hell even nature seems to play ball with its perfect scenery.). The Copenhagen central station is a mess.
Healthcare is another saga entirely... I don't know how much I should get into it in Necuno's poor hijacked thread... But, in Sweden, for example, getting access to a doctor means going through a Vårdcentral (health care centres, basically) and having the annoying nurse at the other end of the phone ask you what's wrong with you and gauge if what you're moaning about sounds serious enough.
Private doctors are also stripped of almost all of their power if they don't function under a Vårdcentral--they can still give prescriptions but they can't refer you to a specialist (cardiologist, psychiatrist, dermatologist, ear-nose-throat, etc).
Lots of issues here with the healthcare system. But it does work. It's just not exactly without problems
I love what I've seen of Bergen and Tromsø, but they seem too "country" to live in permanently. I'd prefer living in a main center like Oslo and visit the coastal- and countryside towns.Scandinavian landscapes? Move north then
Southern Sweden (Skåne area) and Denmark are flat as a pancake. The landscape is incredibly boring--after ten minutes on the road, everything starts to look the same.
Further north (and in Norway, especially) you'll find the landscape gets a bit more character.
Unfortunately, haven't been there just yet
From what I've learned:
Ø = "oo"
Å = "aa"
...or the closest to those. Funny thing, once I started learning some Swedish, it felt natural reading Norwegian and Danish as well (to the point that I can't really distinguish them). For an Afrikaans boytjie it just feels natural and once you learn some of the grammatical subtleties, you can kinda figure out the words on your own.
My first sentence was: Hej, jag heter NAME och jobbar på COMPANY.
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They're beautiful places, yes. I enjoy the countryside very much though--the quaint little villages are amazing. I agree though, I don't think I'd ever be able to live in one--I crave high-speed broadband and "the city life" far too much.
D and I hope to end up either in Stockholm or Luleå. But there are many other options as well, as long as it's along the coast.
It's close. Ö is more back-in-the-throat than "oo" and å is... You know, actually, there's a bloody reason they aren't (completely) Anglicised letters, so I'm not evening going to botherFrom what I've learned:
Ø = "oo"
Å = "aa"
...or the closest to those.Ö sounds like Ö and Å sounds like Å and Ä sounds like Ä
Yeah, reading it was tricky but not impossible. The Germanic roots of Afrikaans makes it easier to understand and to learn the language. Of course, being bilingual also helps a lot when learning additional languages.Funny thing, once I started learning some Swedish, it felt natural reading Norwegian and Danish as well (to the point that I can't really distinguish them). For an Afrikaans boytjie it just feels natural and once you learn some of the grammatical subtleties, you can kinda figure out the words on your own.
I find Danish an absolutely abhorrent language though. They've taken the universal pronunciation of the alphabet and said, "Fuck that, we'll do it our way instead!"
Haha! NiceMy first sentence was: Hej, jag heter NAME och jobbar på COMPANY.
My first sentence was, "Jag älskar dig"Thereafter I learnt to count and learnt some common phrases.
Now I can have a simple conversation and understand the gist of what someone's talking about but I still feel a long way from being completely fluent.
Thanks for explaining lycan. Yeah the health care in Europe is kinda interesting...better than the local variety though.
Plus it has a sense of common sense about it. e.g. My aunt is a GP in the netherlands & she can legally run red lights if need be ( I think she is considered to be the local on call medic ).
Oh, you're quite welcome. I can talk for hours about the differences between here and South Africa, what I love and what I can't stand about the system(s) here and all sorts of nonsense.
Each country has a different healthcare system (or some variation, at least). Denmark's healthcare is basically free whereas in Sweden seeing a doctor at a Vårdcentral you're registered at costs 160kr whereas seeing a private doctor or going to a Vårdcentral you're not registered at (good luck getting in at all) will cost you 200kr. You also pay for your own medicine (prescription medicine is also logged online--you can see your prescriptions online too and order them online--so you can collect at any pharmacy around the country; you can also make doctors' appointments online if your Vårdcentral supports it).Yeah the health care in Europe is kinda interesting...better than the local variety though.
However, both doctor and hospital expenses are capped at 2,200kr per year. In other words if your medicine or medical bills reach 2,200kr, the government will pay for the rest.
That is something I find absolutely phenomenal about the healthcare here. Cancer, surgery, chronic medical care, etc--you know that your government will look out for you.
Education is also completely free, including varsity. Meaning that if you enjoy studying--go nuts.
Public transport is fantastic--you can get anywhere by train and where you can't get to by train you certain can by bus. Most public transport is also run on renewable energy and biogas.
You can also choose your electricity provider--we pay for renewable electricity
I don't know anything about that in these parts, but I can't wait to see the Netherlands and Belgium. And Prague--I can't wait to see the Sedlec Ossuary (and the city will be a great sight to behold too, I'm surePlus it has a sense of common sense about it. e.g. My aunt is a GP in the netherlands & she can legally run red lights if need be ( I think she is considered to be the local on call medic ).
grr...flippin lang barrier. *Maybe* by year end I might have a EU passport. If I don't get screwed over on that front then I might join you in a couple of years.
Prescription meds...its all still relationship driven here. No online stuff. e.g. Thankfully both my prescribing doc and pharmacist trust me so things go smoothly. Theoretically its all system and script driven sure but it rarely works that way.
I like the capping. 2200kr seems a bit low to me though. The idea totally appeals...but thats peanuts....you'd hit that with even minor ailments.
How the hell do you do that? That's just freaky! Clearly you know your keyboard better than I!
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