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    Quote Originally Posted by Saint_Dee View Post
    With PS4 and Xbox One, that might not necessarily be accurate.
    Not 100% accurate i know but i don't think you can change the graphics settings on console.

    For all we know they might be running on low-medium while you can bump it all the way up to high-ultra on PC (don't forget higher resolution)

    Also you might be able to get a keyboard and mouse working on the new consoles with something like Xim but there will always be a slight delay (also you will have a clear advantage over other console players so it's the equivalent of cheating on PC)
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    Quote Originally Posted by DCWarhound View Post
    Not 100% accurate i know but i don't think you can change the graphics settings on console.

    For all we know they might be running on low-medium while you can bump it all the way up to high-ultra on PC (don't forget higher resolution)

    Also you might be able to get a keyboard and mouse working on the new consoles with something like Xim but there will always be a slight delay (also you will have a clear advantage over other console players so it's the equivalent of cheating on PC)
    In terms of graphic fidelity, sure, PC's can truly go all the way (with a hefty price as an accessory), the PS4 and Xbox are somewhat the equivalent of a mid to high end gaming PC hybrid (I'm slightly too lazy to bring up the specs of both next gen consoles ), to me that says they're capable of getting High settings (if JackFrags's PS4 gameplay vids are anything to go by), and not to mention they'll also support 64 player maps like their PC counterpart. So yes, PC still can go ultra with all the bells and whistles, but all the bells are whistles are really just that; extras that have no bearing on the gameplay IMO.

    The controller vs KB+M isn't really a point that should sway people from either platform to the other for any reason other than personal preference, because numerous games and gamers (I'm also too lazy to bring up stats ) have shown that FPS games can be just as fun with controllers as they are with the KB+M combo. Sure, accuracy is not the same, but I wouldn't say that equates to Console Gamer A having less fun than PC Gamer B because his/her accuracy differs from the PC Gamer especially when they're probably going up against gamers who use the same form of input. It's why Halo and Killzone are still successful franchises while being console exclusives. It's also why both CoD and BF have been bringing in more money with their console versions (I'm going to assume this is in the post CoD4 and BF2 era since I can't really gauge their sales or successes before that).

    One may argue that a large number of the console gamers are casuals (another argument that I'll never get into, because who draws the line between hardcore and casuals? Who deems that line appropriate?).

    Truth is, unless there is a system that genuinely quantifies how much fun is derived from playing FPS games on Consoles with Graphic Fidelity A vs Gaming PC's with Graphic Fidelity B, or playing FPS games with controllers vs the KB+M combo, I'd say all platforms are viable choice for 1st person shooters with preference being the deciding factor, especially if we include the next gen consoles in the equation.

    TL;DR It's a little more complex than saying the game is better on one platform, because of how loose the definition of better would be, and how relative better is for each gamer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saint_Dee View Post
    In terms of graphic fidelity, sure, PC's can truly go all the way (with a hefty price as an accessory), the PS4 and Xbox are somewhat the equivalent of a mid to high end gaming PC hybrid (I'm slightly too lazy to bring up the specs of both next gen consoles ), to me that says they're capable of getting High settings (if JackFrags's PS4 gameplay vids are anything to go by), and not to mention they'll also support 64 player maps like their PC counterpart. So yes, PC still can go ultra with all the bells and whistles, but all the bells are whistles are really just that; extras that have no bearing on the gameplay IMO.

    The controller vs KB+M isn't really a point that should sway people from either platform to the other for any reason other than personal preference, because numerous games and gamers (I'm also too lazy to bring up stats ) have shown that FPS games can be just as fun with controllers as they are with the KB+M combo. Sure, accuracy is not the same, but I wouldn't say that equates to Console Gamer A having less fun than PC Gamer B because his/her accuracy differs from the PC Gamer especially when they're probably going up against gamers who use the same form of input. It's why Halo and Killzone are still successful franchises while being console exclusives. It's also why both CoD and BF have been bringing in more money with their console versions (I'm going to assume this is in the post CoD4 and BF2 era since I can't really gauge their sales or successes before that).

    One may argue that a large number of the console gamers are casuals (another argument that I'll never get into, because who draws the line between hardcore and casuals? Who deems that line appropriate?).

    Truth is, unless there is a system that genuinely quantifies how much fun is derived from playing FPS games on Consoles with Graphic Fidelity A vs Gaming PC's with Graphic Fidelity B, or playing FPS games with controllers vs the KB+M combo, I'd say all platforms are viable choice for 1st person shooters with preference being the deciding factor, especially if we include the next gen consoles in the equation.

    TL;DR It's a little more complex than saying the game is better on one platform, because of how loose the definition of better would be, and how relative better is for each gamer.

    PS: Jeez that's a diplomatic mouthful

    PPS: For the record, I'm a PC gamer
    Good post. I just read an article that proves that the PS4 will look better than the Xbox One. I am a console player but do prefer the control K&M gives when playing FPS games. Bit I am a beast on controllers though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DCWarhound View Post
    Not 100% accurate i know but i don't think you can change the graphics settings on console.

    For all we know they might be running on low-medium while you can bump it all the way up to high-ultra on PC (don't forget higher resolution)

    Also you might be able to get a keyboard and mouse working on the new consoles with something like Xim but there will always be a slight delay (also you will have a clear advantage over other console players so it's the equivalent of cheating on PC)
    Just to add on what Dee has said:

    Keyboard and mouse support is game dependant, the only game so far to show support on the PS4 is FF: Realm Reborn. Graphically Battlefield 4 looks to be running at quite close to the PC equivalent of High on the PS4, the only difference between high and ultra would probably be extra shaders and sharper textures.

    I watched a bit of PC and then Console gameplay for Battlefield 4, it seems that console players are all on the same playing level, as they are not able to quickly look around as easily as they are on PC, which limits their FoV and they have to rely on the minimap, spotting and sound a lot more than a PC gamer who has easy access to a 360 degrees view.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glordit View Post
    Just to add on what Dee has said:

    Keyboard and mouse support is game dependant, the only game so far to show support on the PS4 is FF: Realm Reborn. Graphically Battlefield 4 looks to be running at quite close to the PC equivalent of High on the PS4, the only difference between high and ultra would probably be extra shaders and sharper textures.

    I watched a bit of PC and then Console gameplay for Battlefield 4, it seems that console players are all on the same playing level, as they are not able to quickly look around as easily as they are on PC, which limits their FoV and they have to rely on the minimap, spotting and sound a lot more than a PC gamer who has easy access to a 360 degrees view.
    Very true. I do wonder about Titanfall being cross platform with PC. If I remember correctly, you could play against your PC buddies on your Xbox One. How will this work with PC players having more responsive controls over the controller based console players?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glordit View Post
    Just to add on what Dee has said:

    Keyboard and mouse support is game dependant, the only game so far to show support on the PS4 is FF: Realm Reborn. Graphically Battlefield 4 looks to be running at quite close to the PC equivalent of High on the PS4, the only difference between high and ultra would probably be extra shaders and sharper textures.

    I watched a bit of PC and then Console gameplay for Battlefield 4, it seems that console players are all on the same playing level, as they are not able to quickly look around as easily as they are on PC, which limits their FoV and they have to rely on the minimap, spotting and sound a lot more than a PC gamer who has easy access to a 360 degrees view.
    Very true. I do wonder about Titanfall being cross platform with PC. If I remember correctly, you could play against your PC buddies on your Xbox One. How will this work with PC players having more responsive controls over the controller based console players?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glordit View Post
    Just to add on what Dee has said:

    Keyboard and mouse support is game dependant...
    Actually you can use a keyboard and mouse in any game if you have Xim.

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