But it's still a very small portion of the entire marketOriginally Posted by Lycanthrope
But it's still a very small portion of the entire market
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Yep, it is and I'm certainly not arguing that.
I like attention being drawn to it, I like that people are showing that there's a market for "minority-character" games. I think it's a good thing that people make aware their feelings and emphasise that they want to be represented in media and to see characters they can relate with.
What I am against is people throwing their toys out of the cot and taking offence at anything and everything that doesn't subscribe to their narrow view of the world and demanding that developers/artists/authors/whatever all change/alter their work to accommodate them.
I like being able to play characters that can have same-sex relationships because I can relate to it and I find it immersive. However, I don't want Geralt of Rivia or Jim Raynor to be gay. Prior to this article, I would have thought nobody would imagine Kerrigan dressed in jeans and a T-shirt because GO FEMINISM. I just don't understand why people feel like playing games, reading books or watching movies and then bitching about a fictitious (and often grossly exaggerated) character not being "realistic." I mean really, wtf.
I can completely appreciate that in many instances sexualisation of women in gaming is utterly ridiculous and blatantly aimed at horny teenagers:
The Command & Conquer games are my favourite example of this... The women all have their cleavage wide open. Why? In what professional instance would a news anchor or a commander have their breasts all but completely exposed? It's blatant (and nonsensical) sexualisation. But hey, if that's how they want their games then fine, go for it. But it's stupid (and this is the only argument I have against it).
Yes, show that there is a market for minorities being represented (and accurately represented at that) in media but for the love of sanity, why demand it? Where does this overblown sense of entitlement come from that you MUST be represented in all media? Or that characters that don't look the way YOU want them to is somehow offensive?
Ja, I know, you just find some hyper sensitive people that will jump onto any comment whatever it is. This is unfortunately a very contentious subject and many people have many differing views on it. I feel that people must just play the game and forget about sexism and PC and just play it for the story and game play.
But the consumer market has changed and those who represented a minority stakeholder group are not a minority anymore. Games aren't just bought by white male youth but by woman, people of other colour and various faiths and views. Therefore to say the industry must get over change isn't exactly fair in my view since those who previously represented a unicorn minority aren't so rare anymore and the would also appreciate games that cater to them instead of having to "grow a thicker skin".
While I'm not saying that we should change existing franchises, but we should be pushing for new franchises especially in the new gen that pushes the boundaries and creating new heroes and legends that are inclusive.
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people just need to build a bridge and get over it.
yes it is all over the place but really people, this just flavour of the weak 101. queue the next Bioware game that includes homosexual characters and then another furore about that.
grow up move on and leave it alone. less time spent elevating crap like this will force people to just forget about it and move on with life.
some of us already have
Play games, not platforms
As I said, there is definitely a market--it's up to developers/publishers to exploit it if they choose to do so.
What I'm moaning about is people who feel that they are somehow entitled to gay/black/female/'normal-female'/whatever characters in every form of media just because people feel 'offended' or 'upset' or some other random emotion that they need to share with the world, when they don't get their way.
Yes, they need to grow a thicker skin and realise that the world doesn't exist to hand them everything they want on a silver platter and that they certainly won't always get their way. And, above all, that they have absolutely no right to demand that anyone conform to their individual perspective of reality.
To quote ol' Gandhi: "Be the change you wish to see." -- Nothing stops anyone from developing, supporting, marketing or investing in media that makes them happy. If you don't like a form of media, don't buy it, read it, play it, watch it or otherwise force yourself through the misery of the experience. But for the love of sanity, stop trying to control what media other people may or may not buy/read/play/watch/experience/develop.
People, today, have an overinflated sense of entitlement and, somehow, people don't seem to understand the problem with that.
This is my favourite part:
Okay - this guy is simply stirring the pot here. Yes genius - "notorious" usually means something is popular due to a negative connotation. But still, our intrepid journalist/interviewer gets to grips with what a notorious subject is. Something that is clearly popular in a "not-good way". Was this guy an alumni from the Derek Zoolander School for Kids Who Can't Read Good and Want To Do Other Stuff Good Too? Seems so.RPS: I have to add, though, that comics might not be the best point of reference for this sort of thing. I mean, it’s a medium that’s notorious – often in a not-good way – for sexing up female characters and putting them in some fairly gross situations.
I'm beginning to think our society has reached climactic poles. One side is the Godless "I hate you for having a religion and any sense of moral values" crowd, and the other is an increasing number of "We need to go back to the stone-age because Bikinis are the devil! - Also, I like cows". Since when is a fictional character, created from the imagination of an artist open to ridicule from closed-minded Amish leaders because the character dared to show cleavage, or even worse, wear high heels? And then to somehow make these artists feel so bad about their own imaginations that they have to change everything to suite these people who have difficulty in imagining a square?
Sigh - society blows. Our end cannot come soon enough.
Last edited by Neo; 26-11-2013 at 12:36 AM.
No problems here as long as there are not micro transactions or unreasonable micro transations.
So it never changes; next carpet please.
Last edited by Necuno; 27-11-2013 at 12:47 PM.
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