Philip Seymour Hoffman found dead

[Lycanthrope]

Of course there were outside influences, whatever the external factors, but the fact of the matter is there are probably millions of other people with worse issues or influences who dont end up going down the same path of self destruction. Now people jump on the bandwagon and virtually imply that it was inevitable and he had no choice in the matter. Nope, he made those choices, however influenced.

This might come as a shock but not everyone deals with the same situation in the same way. Not everyone is strong-willed, if they were we wouldn't be having this chat.

With the right personality and vulnerabilities, yes, it's inevitable and they don't have very much choice in the matter.

This doesn't apply to everyone but it does apply to many.

People are stupid and do stupid things for any number of reasons. I'll never understand why some people need to make their own mistakes and lack the capacity to learn from the mistakes of others. Yet, at the same time, I realise that that's just life.

I just see absolutely no reason to look at people with these problems with disdain and claim that they brought it on themselves. That might be true for some but certainly not for all.

Sweeping generalisations and black-and-white self-righteous statements made from an ivory tower annoys me and I find very difficult to take seriously.

[Tsar]

You know whats sad. A lot of brilliant people end up dying from drugs. Scares me that I nearly went down this path myself.

[Cicero]

This might come as a shock but not everyone deals with the same situation in the same way. Not everyone is strong-willed, if they were we wouldn't be having this chat.

With the right personality and vulnerabilities, yes, it's inevitable and they don't have very much choice in the matter.

This doesn't apply to everyone but it does apply to many.

People are stupid and do stupid things for any number of reasons. I'll never understand why some people need to make their own mistakes and lack the capacity to learn from the mistakes of others. Yet, at the same time, I realise that that's just life.

I just see absolutely no reason to look at people with these problems with disdain and claim that they brought it on themselves. That might be true for some but certainly not for all.

Sweeping generalisations and black-and-white self-righteous statements made from an ivory tower annoys me and I find very difficult to take seriously.

Listen, I'm not sitting here all self-righteous, high and mighty, saying its purely his fault. You dont seem to understand that, you seem to think I'm saying its purely his fault. I have a middle ground stance - and I just refuse to accept the view that this guy is basically a saint with no fault and no choice!

The same way that I will not accept that a husband cheating on his wife has no fault or choice, or a rapist, or murderer (to escalate rapidly) - because "not everyone is strong willed".

[Lycanthrope]

Listen, I'm not sitting here all self-righteous, high and mighty, saying its purely his fault. You dont seem to understand that, you seem to think I'm saying its purely his fault. I have a middle ground stance - and I just refuse to accept the view that this guy is basically a saint with no fault and no choice!

The same way that I will not accept that a husband cheating on his wife has no fault or choice, or a rapist, or murderer (to escalate rapidly) - because "not everyone is strong willed".

Now you're comparing drug addiction (something that is inherently self-inflicted) to cheating, rape and murder? Okay then...

One moment you say, "they brought it on themselves" referring to a general group (read: addicts) and the next you reel back in specifically to Hoffman.

I think that this one is doomed to go back and forth, up and down and round and round. So, if you'll excuse me, I'm done.

[Cicero]

Now you're comparing drug addiction (something that is inherently self-inflicted) to cheating, rape and murder? Okay then...

One moment you say, "they brought it on themselves" referring to a general group (read: addicts) and the next you reel back in specifically to Hoffman.

I think that this one is doomed to go back and forth, up and down and round and round. So, if you'll excuse me, I'm done.

Everything is in context to your replies about will-power and upbringing.

But I agree with your final statement at least .

[Gouko_Tenrou]

He was a great actor.

RIP