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    Everyone is screaming tolerance but no one is tolerating neos beliefs. It is his right not to agree with it. As long as he isn't going around bashing their heads in and making their life hell. I mean he isn't putin

    I don't care what a persons sexuality is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by XbatousaiX View Post
    Great post Stunt but we must also remember that everyone is entitled to there beliefs no one has the right to tell another person what is wrong or right.
    Typically I agree - but if you tell me you believe being gay is a choice, you can bet your ass I'm well within my rights - as a gay person, who would know - to tell you that you're wrong.

    The position of heterosexuals - who have no experience of being gay - to make an assertion like that is completely and utterly ridiculous. It's academically repugnant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsar View Post
    Everyone is screaming tolerance but no one is tolerating neos beliefs. It is his right not to agree with it. As long as he isn't going around bashing their heads in and making their life hell. I mean he isn't putin

    I don't care what a persons sexuality is.
    There were already a few posts in this thread on tolerating intolerance. Go back and check them out.

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    Dammit, I can't hand out positive rep to everyone who deserves it.

    I'd just like to say it really makes me glad to see that as a diverse community with people from such vastly different backgrounds, we can still stand together and stand up for what is right. Society has really come a long way in the past few decades.

    Also, I'd just like to apologise again for my previous post. I felt it was warranted, but didn't necessarily have to be so crude. I'm a lot calmer now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsar View Post
    Everyone is screaming tolerance but no one is tolerating neos beliefs. It is his right not to agree with it. As long as he isn't going around bashing their heads in and making their life hell. I mean he isn't putin

    I don't care what a persons sexuality is.
    We shouldn't have to tolerate the intolerant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsar View Post
    Everyone is screaming tolerance but no one is tolerating neos beliefs. It is his right not to agree with it. As long as he isn't going around bashing their heads in and making their life hell. I mean he isn't putin

    I don't care what a persons sexuality is.
    James had this one covered.

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    Quote Originally Posted by qornea View Post
    Typically I agree - but if you tell me you believe being gay is a choice, you can bet your ass I'm well within my rights - as a gay person, who would know - to tell you that you're wrong.

    The position of heterosexuals - who have no experience of being gay - to make an assertion like that is completely and utterly ridiculous. It's academically repugnant.

    Being gay is definitively not a choice. Some people it might take a very long time to realize they are gay but thats mainly due to stress and wanting to be accepted in society.

    Sorry guys didn't see it

    /runs

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    I want you guys to think on this for a second, homophobia is just as bad as racism, xenophobia, or various other forms of discrimination.

    Saying "I don't agree with you being gay" is the same as saying "I don't agree with you being black, white, yellow, brown, coloured, etc."

    Now consider the implications of intolerance of gay people.

    Quote Originally Posted by James View Post
    Actually, we do have those rights, generally enshrined in basic human rights. You murder someone in cold blood for not buying wards in Dota 2 and I'm not allowed to tell you it was wrong?
    Many a man should die for that

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    Quote Originally Posted by qornea View Post
    Typically I agree - but if you tell me you believe being gay is a choice, you can bet your ass I'm well within my rights - as a gay person, who would know - to tell you that you're wrong.

    The position of heterosexuals - who have no experience of being gay - to make an assertion like that is completely and utterly ridiculous. It's academically repugnant.
    No being gay is not a choice I would never imply that.

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    I've got an interesting one for those who say that being gay is against their religion.

    In Leviticus 18:22 the Bible says:
    "You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination."

    However in Leviticus 19:19 the Bible says:
    “‘Keep my decrees.
    “‘Do not mate different kinds of animals.
    “‘Do not plant your field with two kinds of seed.
    “‘Do not wear clothing woven of two kinds of material."

    Leviticus 19:27:
    "‘Do not cut the hair at the sides of your head or clip off the edges of your beard."

    etc. I don't have the time to look for the interesting bits right now. Googling will probably find it.

    I don't understand how some of the bits in the Bible must be followed but others not. That is hypocritical.

    I believe that gay people were born that way and to discriminate against them is wrong. Even worse those who do so based on Bible verses where they will quote one verse but blatantly ignore the others.

    If a person wants to be against people that are gay then they may be so but I too believe that this is intolerant behaviour.

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    Leviticus also says you're not allowed to make marks on your skin, which includes tattoos. I've seen many religious people with tattoos.

    People just like to be selective about what they adhere to.

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