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Thread: British Youth Charged With Raping Sister, Blames Porn Watched on Xbox 360

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    Its definitely the parents fault. An ISP can't be responsible for filtering and notifying people of their web habits?

    On a side note...this really shouldn't be in the Console section....epic fail.

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    That is pretty hectic and sad, but please dont blame it on the Xbox,

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlphaJohn View Post
    Aaah so you raped your sister as well?
    lol, so it's his parents fault that he is a rapist?? Seriously?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crableg View Post
    That is pretty hectic and sad, but please dont blame it on the Xbox,
    cant blame Xbox agreed. the kid should not even be on Xbox live. why does a 13 year old need to play online? with whom? there are so many adults online

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    Quote Originally Posted by se7en View Post
    cant blame Xbox agreed. the kid should not even be on Xbox live. why does a 13 year old need to play online? with whom? there are so many adults online
    13 I think is old enough. THe problem is he was using the browser unsupervised...he could've easily have just used a PC too. XBL has nothing to do with it either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Inn3rs3lf View Post
    lol, so it's his parents fault that he is a rapist?? Seriously?
    Yes, because the morals and respect for human life where not in place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlphaJohn View Post
    Yes, because the morals and respect for human life where not in place.
    Just because he didn't follow any moral standard set by the parents means it's their fault.

    Where you ever taught not to steal? Have you stolen something?
    Ever taught not to lie? Have you lied?
    Ever taught not to talk behind anothers back? Have you done so?
    Understanding what I'm saying here?

    I was taught your morals. My family lived by them. Yet I chose not to. This isn't your simple 'rebel stage' I'm talking either. This is full on destruction. Both to self, and to those around me. How I'm alive is beyond me. And no, it had absolutely nothing to do with my upbringing.

    While I agree 90% of the time it is the parents, one just cannot jump to conclusions and start blaming them, bad mouthing them, and ultimately holding them accountable, when they in fact had nothing to do with it.

    Do you know how many killers on death row had the 'perfect family'? Plenty. Blameless parents. Yet they themselves chose to steer off course in order to satisfy their own needs. Think about that as well.

    What you are essentially saying is that the kid is a victim. Not his fault, it's his upbringing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Inn3rs3lf View Post
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    The present study examined relations among neighborhood structural and social characteristics, parenting practices, peer group affiliations, and delinquency among a group of serious adolescent offenders. The sample of 14–18-year-old boys (N = 488) was composed primarily of economically disadvantaged, ethnic-minority youth living in urban communities. The results indicate that weak neighborhood social organization is indirectly related to delinquency through its associations with parenting behavior and peer deviance and that a focus on just 1 of these microsystems can lead to oversimplified models of risk for juvenile offending. The authors also find that community social ties may confer both pro- and antisocial influences to youth, and they advocate for a broad conceptualization of neighborhood social processes as these relate to developmental risk for youth living in disadvantaged communities.
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2791995/

    Go read that paper

    I can find you may like that, when it comes to serious crimes in young people, it always leads back to parenting and the environment, more specific how the parents react to moral issues cause by the environment.

    Simply put its not me saying it, its the study after study that does.

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    This is by far the most shocking thing I've ever read. Oh...my....sack. The sad part is, there's probably boat loads more incidents like these that just haven't been exposed like this. Good grief. I have to be honest, if I was one of the boy's parents - I wouldn't know how to handle this. I don't think I'd want the boy in my house any more.

    Sjoe. Where the heck do you start the blame here? Society as a whole? Just on the parents? This is a real cracker of a problem.
    My ignore list: growing too fast to keep updating.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Inn3rs3lf View Post
    Just because he didn't follow any moral standard set by the parents means it's their fault.

    Where you ever taught not to steal? Have you stolen something?
    Ever taught not to lie? Have you lied?
    Ever taught not to talk behind anothers back? Have you done so?
    Understanding what I'm saying here?

    I was taught your morals. My family lived by them. Yet I chose not to. This isn't your simple 'rebel stage' I'm talking either. This is full on destruction. Both to self, and to those around me. How I'm alive is beyond me. And no, it had absolutely nothing to do with my upbringing.

    While I agree 90% of the time it is the parents, one just cannot jump to conclusions and start blaming them, bad mouthing them, and ultimately holding them accountable, when they in fact had nothing to do with it.

    Do you know how many killers on death row had the 'perfect family'? Plenty. Blameless parents. Yet they themselves chose to steer off course in order to satisfy their own needs. Think about that as well.

    What you are essentially saying is that the kid is a victim. Not his fault, it's his upbringing.
    I get your point, but there's also a huge difference between general rebellion (I dont really know your situation so I'm assuming you didn't inflict any real harm on anyone else along these lines?), and rape.
    But children generally dont fully understand right from wrong, thats why theres a difference between juvenile crimes and adult crimes and also their punishments. I can tell you now though, there are plenty of kids at 13 who have watched porn and dont choose to rape - please note I say choose because he did make the choice and isn't faultless here, he's obviously the most at fault. However, maybe his parents didn't educate him enough(if at all) on sex and sexual morals...that would make it their mistake, and I'm sure thats not all they neglected. Obviously we're all making assumptions here, none of us can be sure of anything.

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