LifeMod - ZA Arma 3 Server

[Roomys]

This is not a Jury and we really dont need people defending themselves. If there are issues between two people or groups then you guys really need to handle it outside of this forum.

The OP has already been banned for link reasons and i see a few more happening if you guys continue on the track you are on (or the thread been either closed or deleted)

I don't think anyone actually cares what is said about Shirou (in a bad light) the oke has gone out of his way to help the gaming community here with servers to play on with ALL different types of games not just 1 or 2 always at his own cost...

I advise this stops now before unnecessary and time wasting action needs to be taken.

[Gr8-White]

@roomys,

My intention here is not to flame anyone, but merely to tell our side of the story.

I do not intend this thread to become a flame war so i will refrain from replying to any more of your posts.

i will however answer any questions asked by the community

is there a problem with me telling my side of the story? being dragged through the mud on a well known community forum, false accusations being thrown around and lies being spread thick and fast... would you not defend yourself and your community?
I did not for one second attack your buddy, all i did was clear the air in the hope that the truth will at least see the light of day.

I noticed the mention of bans and links. The ip has been removed from my initial post. I am however going to leave the link to the Press release, so that people can see the post has not been altered from the original, if that is ok?

[Roomys]

@roomys,




is there a problem with me telling my side of the story? being dragged through the mud on a well known community forum, false accusations being thrown around and lies being spread thick and fast... would you not defend yourself and your community?
I did not for one second attack your buddy, all i did was clear the air in the hope that the truth will at least see the light of day.

Truth on a forum will never see the light of day mate and that's exactly why posts like these are a complete and utter waste of time and tbh i don't think anyone but the people involved really cares. I was talking to both you and Shirou and spoken to him on Skype telling him not to waste his time here.

I am out of this now, need to get some graft done.

[SnowWar]

Ow the drama. It is almost always like this with SA ppl, specially because so many of them are power hungry people who think they are God's gift to the local community for running a server.
What the hell is wrong with you people?

Seems this KFord guy is like that... keep out
Don't really know Shirou, except from this forum... should I start worrying a bit?
Gr8-White well what can I say... It's time you take a long hard look at yourself. I for one are not believing what you are trying to sell here.

Gaming should be about fun. When you running a server or doing such a project it should be for fun and with the community in mind, not elevate your e-peen status, which seems to be the case most of the time.

There is 1, maybe 2 people that can be trusted & respected locally where Arma 2 & 3 is concerned and none of you seems to be 1 of these 2.

I'll be staying away from this server and think any other Arma 3 player with common sense should too.

[Gr8-White]

@Roomys
i can concede to that post mate. well said and a lot of truth there.

@snowwar
old DayZ player? if yes below applies
sour grapes Snowy? guess you are one to carry a grudge after all.
all that aside...

i would love to know why i should take a long hard look at myself? And whether you believe what i posted or not....refer to Roomys's post
if you had read my post properly you would have noticed the area where i mentioned the formation of a council, made up of players, that will be running the server. deciding on policies etc. If i am not mistaken that is a first for South Africa, getting the players involved to such a degree. To be honest I am still holding thumbs and hoping it doesn't boomerang, lol.
Where is anyone measuring e-peens buddy?
You might be surprised at the amount of respected Arma 3 players currently playing on our server. and i must admit it saddens me to see you have so little respect for the local Arma comunity. only one or two? did you maybe have some bad experiences?
You truly are missing a great gaming experience if you havent got down and dirty Arma Style, have a look at the guys over at Zulu Alpha. Now those boys mean business...but i must add....its not for everyone. Some prefer less rigid and militaristic approaches. But to each his own i guess.
Just one more thing, I kinda think its unfair of you forming your opinion of someone based on flame posts?
Look dont get me wrong, its your opinion and you are more than welcome to it...and dont let anyone tell you differently, champ

[Clive Woofer]

I don't want to take sides here, because honestly, this is merely a case of 'he said, she said.' We will never know who is really right and who isn't.

However, I will say that in my experience Shirou is someone who is always on the lookout for the gaming community and has often run servers for obscure games out of his own good will and out of his own pocket. He does not strike me as the kind of person who is power hungry and just trying to do this to for his own benefit. When Cube World came out he was the first (and only) to host a server for us and the same with Starbound. And he spent a lot of time optimizing the servers for both those games. In my opinion, he has only ever acted in the best interests of the gaming community.

I will also say that someone whose idea of resolving a dispute is to go onto a server, deletes all the files and then leave a note basically saying 'fuck you' does not strike me as someone who is acting in the best interests of the community. In fact, that kind of behavior actually strikes me as very childish. What should have been done is to try and resolve the dispute amicably before resorting to drastic measures and from both GR8-white and Shirou's posts it does not sound like this is what either KFord or his LifeMod team tried to do. Therefore I will not be playing on this LifeMod server.

As I said, not taking sides. Maybe Shirou is right, maybe KFord/Gr8-white is right. There's no way to know for sure. The only thing that I am certain about is that KFord handled this incredibly poorly and I will not feel comfortable playing on his server.

[Stunt]

How big is the ZA following for this? Seems a bit of a waste, I'd rather play Zeus really.

[Gr8-White]

Hi there Clive,
we did try and resolve the issue with as little impact on the community as possible. aaaand its public!

If i may explain the Arma Setup quick.
The mods created by the guys, are very often stolen by other people. The community we joined is in fact an existing community. The files that were on the server, were KFord's developed files. He put them there. Brought them over from the UK and German servers. So it was never Shirou's property. He basically provided a local box for LifeMod to be hosted on.
The guy has put a lot work in developing the mod and making sure it works as well as possible. Of course he wants to protect his intellectual property and take it with him when he goes? The LifeMod is his brainchild and is not freely available to the public i might add.
leaving the note as goodbye present....yes i agree that was not in good taste. He is young though, and was very upset with the way he was being treated as the developer and owner of LifeMod.

I for one, am not happy with the way things turned out and would have liked it to have had a different outcome. Unfortunately people sometimes force your hand.

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@stunt
30-45 players on almost any given night. come check it out. if its not your cup of tea, you wont have lost anything. Free mod to play.
Zeus out yet??? dying to give that a go.

[Shirou]

Thanks all for the positive feedback towards me, but i would really like this to end and hope the thread can get locked, i really don't have the strength for this and would just like it to be rested.

All i would say lastly is that most people know me offering and hosting servers and try and get gaming servers out there which are not, Arma 3 Altis Life was one of them and it gotten a success untill it was taken from me without any discussions of talks about it with me it was overnight decided and deleted from my server to have it removed from my possetion which Gr8-White is now defending with all he got as he now "host" the server, so he will do everything to protect it at this stage.

My plan is to allways please the south african community with gaming servers which are not hosted in south africa and then on the end this is the thank you i get after it gained some success.

The only discussion that was made with me was the following morning after everything was deleted and i have been removed from "Head Admin" as i no longer host the server and "Head Admin" was given to Gr8-White as he was the one hosting the server now.

Gr8-White asked me to stay and i would still have my ranks in the police on the altis life server.. Still just like that i was revoked my own admin rights and i had no controll over it as the server is no longer hosted on my server.

I took that as a slap in the face and just told them i will no longer be part of this community, because how things was decided and delt with is not my way of proffesionaly going forward with such a community.

[SnowWar]

@roomys,
is there a problem with me telling my side of the story? being dragged through the mud on a well known community forum, false accusations being thrown around and lies being spread thick and fast... would you not defend yourself and your community?

Sorry but until you jumped on the train and made a post your name was not mentioned here. I'd say you dragging your own name through the mud and then try to defend it at the same time. Kinda weird.

I'm not really fond of grapes. I'd say I'm realistic and all that this thread really does is make me sad. People, specially local people seems to do things for the wrong reason and then it always at some point bursts into something we have seen right here in this thread. I think that speaks for itself.

Can't you just sort these crap out in private...? What do they say any publicity is good publicity? I hope not