Where do you stand on GamerGate?

[Kevin]

Where do you stand on GamerGate?

Not sure where you stand on the GamerGate saga? Maybe we can help

[Crzwaco]

I like 5 just play games
But then also I care with some ones
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Question 10 answer 5 should have been fuck this I am out of here playing some games with my friends.

[chan0o]

Am I the only one who misread it as GamersGate at first glance?

I was like.. eh, I like their reward system, but it could do better.

[MissileToe]

Am I the only one who misread it as GamersGate at first glance?

I was like.. eh, I like their reward system, but it could do better.

No, I also did that.

Their sale prices suck, that's for sure.

[qornea]

Am I the only one who misread it as GamersGate at first glance?

I was like.. eh, I like their reward system, but it could do better.

No, I also did that.

Their sale prices suck, that's for sure.

And this highlights exactly why I love the MyGaming community

[BeoTeK]

Oops... I thought this was about GamersGate.com :P

[FarligOpptreden]

Oops... I thought this was about GamersGate.com :P

Glad I'm not the only one. Was about to mention that I've never bought from them. Just did, I suppose...

[TheAvenged87]

Wow, there's a lot of shit associated with being someone who likes to play games.

[smokey]

I still fail to see the problem. Let's just say she used T 'n A to get coverage for her games... so what? EA has been using much dirtier tactics since the heyday of Gaming Magazines to get their games reviewed well. If she doesn't have a problem sleeping with someone for coverage, then why would anyone else?

Also, this whole journalistic ethics bullshit is mind numbing. Who even uses journalistic sources for creditable gaming referances anyway. Friends, LP on youtube and metacritic are all you need. The only people who acrually need to follow a journos advice on a game is people who MUST HAZ a certain game on release day, and with all the crap that's happened with first day release games those people should bloody well know better.

[Saint_Dee]

I'm mostly 1's and on the latter part of the description ("you understand that the issue is far more complex than either side cares to admit").

Anyway, I've been generally keeping away from the entire debacle because really the shitstorm is insanely huge. And the problem is that the internet has drawn lines in the sand or rather put up fences; you're either on one side or the other. There's just no nuance in the discussions, either you're a Sexist scum, SJW, White Knight, and all other manner of labels you can think of. What is certain is the existence of extremists on all sides of this debacle, and they are not doing discussion any favors. It really is possible to agree and disagree with someone in the same breadth. Abuse and personal attacks? Never okay, no matter which side is dishing it out. A censoring campaign out to redact all forms of discussion? Deplorable and also fuels the pit of flames that I've seen on the internet regarding "GamerGate".

Some people are discussing ethics in journalism as a result of the sex scandal, this is a valid discussion (where I stand on that matter is neither here nor there). But what I'm seeing is, remember my point on there being no nuance in the discussion, if you don't agree with a point about the entire thing being sexist then you're a sexist (simple as that), I mean totalbiscuit made what can be regarded a pretty diplomatic post on the entire thing and his thoughts on the matter (even the censoring) and he was pretty much attacked and labeled "a gross nerd" or a sexist by a some journalists and devs who only paint the entire thing as sexism issue. These people include Phil Fish, and some other prominent names, some of them even threatening to initiate DMCA takedowns on certain YouTubers who review their works in the future (on top of already existing DMCA/Copyright takedowns).

On the flipside if you do mention that there is some sexism in terms of the abuse that Quinn received, or even some of the commentary, you are a SJW or White Knight. It's really silly. I think at the core of it all, there was an opportunity for there to be discussion, but the extremism is too much from all sides.

Check out these links from the intial MyG thread about the whole thing: http://www.brightsideofnews.com/2014...quinn-scandal/, http://robsimple.wordpress.com/2014/...netapocalypse/

Is it possible that gamers are reacting the way they are because of the existence of a conflict of interest as opposed to actual nature of that conflict being sexual? I think that possibility exists. Is there a discussion to be had about journalism and ethics that predates the scandal? Yes, I think so (I recall a journalist being dismissed because of a review that one of their ad revenue sources didn't like). Is there sexism in the way some people are handling their commentary regarding the story, but on the flipside you also can't paint the entire discussion as sexist. Is the abuse warranted? No, abuse is abuse regardless of the intent behind it. Censoring discussion? A huge no no, and something that Quinn should have never engaged in...

Yada yada yada and so it goes on. So what am I now? A SJW, White Knight, or a Sexist? tl;dr I understand that the issue is far more complex than either side cares to admit.

... Man, that was more than I intended to type out