Future of the MyGaming Community Steam group

[Jan]

[MENTION=289]Jan[/MENTION]

When will this stuff be finalised? In other words, how long do we have to respond?

Ideally, I would like to kick the poll(s) off this weekend. Let's say until 11:00 tomorrow (Saturday)?

[Hiro]

It is just sad that the actions from 1 Narrowminded Misguided Forum member (not even the one who was removed) has caused the MASS EXODUS and ALIENATION of all the longstanding and Most Contributive Forum users (He is willing to Damage the whole steamgifts group for the sake of fighting and defending for someone who never asked to be fought for in the first place).

I Personally felt like removing him from the steamgifts group (Due to his Agressive actions and disrespect for the officers of the group) but i will leave that decision up to the other other Officers and Jan as that would have probably opened another can of worms.

could not have said it better myself!! absolutely spot on! i find it absolutely absurd that one single member was able/allowed to utterly decimate an awesome thread/group

[Wlad]

I have been avoiding this whole topic since the start as personally I think all this drama is just a waste of everyone's time and energy. I have looked at the group history and all the people that Eugene removed, and I think he was being 100% fair in his decision to remove these members. A lot of the people that were removed are very old members of this forum, but they have been inactive on the forum for some time and no longer qualified for the criteria of the group as stated in the rules.

In my opinion, the rules are fine as is and shouldn't need to be changed. It's sad to see the whole community falling apart because one person (somewhat admirably) tried to defend another person who was removed from the group due to inactivity outside the group. It's even sadder that the person in question seemingly completely understood (and accepted) why he was removed from the group and did not ask (or need) anybody to defend him. Rules are rules and shouldn't be bended to accomodate anyone who doesn't like or agree with them. If you don't agree with the rules then you shouldn't even be in the group.

It's really not that hard to contribute to the forum. I'm not the most socially active person, but I can always find something to post about and I think I have contributed a fair amount to this forum. Nobody has time to sit on the forum the whole day and post on every topic that interests them, but it really doesn't take much to stay active. I mean, I'm not even trying and I'm still in the top 50 activity group (just ) for the Xbone comp, although I wouldn't mind winning it. As others have already stated the whole reason the second group was started was because people who weren't actively making a contribution to the forum were winning games meant as a reward for contributing members. There is a completely seperate group for people who just want to add some of the forum members to their steam friends and maybe play a game or two together. This group has no membership criteria and anyone can join, regardless of how active they are on the forum.

I think, in future, before someone gets kicked/removed from the group the officers should discuss it via PM and then also inform the member in question of their decision to remove him. This way the member can get an understanding of why he will be removed from the group and a period of time can be alloted to try and get his activity outside the GA thread up to an acceptable level to ensure that he stays in the group.

I commend Eugene and Wyvern for all the work they did with the group and it was really sad to see them (and some of the most contributing members of the group) leave because of all this unneccesary drama. The rules were enforced correctly and instead of causing a public spectacle the person who disagreed with the enforcing of the rules should have contacted Eugene (and/or the other officers) and Dampi via PM and discussed it with them privately. If the person could not agree with how the rules were being enforced and no understanding was reached between the involved parties, he should have just left the group of his own accord. As previously stated, rules are there for a reason and we cannot start a massive forum argument everytime someone gets removed from the group and someone doesn't agree with it. I agree with some of the other people that the person who basically caused this rift in the community should actually be removed from the group, but since he has not broken the rules I feel it would be unfair to do so. In the end I hope we can all put this drama behind us and I really hope Eugene and all the other members who left will eventually return and we can keep on doing awesome GA's for an awesome community.



Damn, that came out much longer than I thought it would

tl;dr Let's put all this useless drama behind us and continue the GA's. Rules are rules and should be enforced without someone losing their shit over it.

[Hagan]

1. As long as those who are in charge help to keep the thread consistent and relevant.
2. Civility is in order (as it used to be - before the shenanigans).
3. Giveaways are done simply and preferably only those who really wish to enter should (bit of a tough call to make here).


*post subject to changes*

[mottamort]

I have been avoiding this whole topic since the start as personally I think all this drama is just a waste of everyone's time and energy. I have looked at the group history and all the people that Eugene removed, and I think he was being 100% fair in his decision to remove these members. A lot of the people that were removed are very old members of this forum, but they have been inactive on the forum for some time and no longer qualified for the criteria of the group as stated in the rules.

In my opinion, the rules are fine as is and shouldn't need to be changed. It's sad to see the whole community falling apart because one person (somewhat admirably) tried to defend another person who was removed from the group due to inactivity outside the group. It's even sadder that the person in question seemingly completely understood (and accepted) why he was removed from the group and did not ask (or need) anybody to defend him. Rules are rules and shouldn't be bended to accomodate anyone who doesn't like or agree with them. If you don't agree with the rules then you shouldn't even be in the group.

It's really not that hard to contribute to the forum. I'm not the most socially active person, but I can always find something to post about and I think I have contributed a fair amount to this forum. Nobody has time to sit on the forum the whole day and post on every topic that interests them, but it really doesn't take much to stay active. I mean, I'm not even trying and I'm still in the top 50 activity group (just ) for the Xbone comp, although I wouldn't mind winning it. As others have already stated the whole reason the second group was started was because people who weren't actively making a contribution to the forum were winning games meant as a reward for contributing members. There is a completely seperate group for people who just want to add some of the forum members to their steam friends and maybe play a game or two together. This group has no mebership criteria and anyone can join, regardless of how active they are on the forum.

I think, in future, before someone gets kicked/removed from the group the officers should discuss it via PM and then also inform the member in question of their decision to remove him. This way the member can get an understanding of why he will be removed from the group and a period of time can be alloted to try and get his activity outside the GA thread up to an acceptable level to ensure that he stays in the group.

I commend Eugene and Wyvern for all the work they did with the group and it was really sad to see them (and some of the most contributing members of the group) leave because of all this unneccesary drama. The rules were enforced correctly and instead of causing a public spectacle the person who disagreed with the enforcing of the rules should have contacted Eugene (and/or the other officers) and Dampi via PM and discussed it with them privately. If the person could not agree with how the rules were being enforced and no understanding was reached between the involved parties, he should have just left the group of his own accord. As previously stated, rules are there for a reason and we cannot start a massive forum argument everytime someone gets removed from the group and someone doesn't agree with it. I agree with some of the other people that the person who basically caused this rift in the community should actually be removed from the group, but since he has not broken the rules I feel it would be unfair to do so. In the end I hope we can all put this drama behind us and I really hope Eugene and all the other members who left will eventually return and we can keep on doing awesome GA's for an awesome community.



Damn, that came out much longer than I thought it would

tl;dr Let's put all this useless drama behind us and continue the GA's. Rules are rules and should be enforced without someone losing their shit over it.

Wlad for president!

[Flex]

1. As long as those who are in charge help to keep the thread consistent and relevant.
2. Civility is in order (as it used to be - before the shenanigans).
3. Giveaways are done simply and preferably only those who really wish to enter should (bit of a tough call to make here).


*post subject to changes*

Elimination rounds of Rock , Paper Scissors seems to be the only way to go forward!
Here is a link to all of the rules from the World RPS Society: http://www.worldrps.com/gbasics.html

Please go and read up everyone so that no one gets hurt!

[The_Imp_ZA]

Thanks for this Jan.

My sentiments have pretty much been said already by [MENTION=18030]phalen[/MENTION] and [MENTION=4467]Graal[/MENTION].

I however am a bit more of a heartless person (according to my ex) and would go as far as saying that no warnings should be given. Each person is aware of the rules and regulations upon entering the agreement that is by joining the group. Infractions to the rule should deem an immediate kick/ban from the group. No questions asked!

There are two groups. One for people aren't that active and then the one in question, the one for Valuable Community Contributors.

I believe we should stay with the current rules. I also don't think it's necessary to warn people. If they need a warning then they aren't a Valuable Community Contributor.

I concur with this. If it takes you a week to notice that you've been kicked, well... Point proven.

[Graal]

Hey people, I think it might be a good idea to split this discussion between the two currently active threads. Let's reserve this thread for suggestions and feedback on how to run the group in future and use the other thread for the discussion of the emotional side of the discussion. We're all a little on edge and we'd like to run our mouths, but let's make it easier for Jan to sift through the actual feedback.

[Graal]

Another thing I'd like people to consider re: warning PMs is the extra admin that it generates. People like Eugene and Wyvern have full time jobs. Expecting them to send out warnings to people who don't participate is adding unnecessary extra work.

If you have to be warned then you're probably not a valuable part of the community and like Wyvern said, they don't have time to babysit people like they're 2 year olds. Maybe the onus for ensuring people comply with the rules shouldn't be moved over to the moderators like what is being suggested now, but should instead be left in the hands of the people. They need to ensure that they're complying with the rules on their own.

[MetalSoup]

I concur with this. If it takes you a week to notice that you've been kicked, well... Point proven.

I also feel that warnings are pointless, especially when you consider that anyone that has been kicked could quickly earn their way back into the group with minimal effort.