I'd just like to say thanks to Jan for spending sleepless nights on the forum trying to keep everyone happy. I know it's not an easy job. +1 rep :P
I'd just like to say thanks to Jan for spending sleepless nights on the forum trying to keep everyone happy. I know it's not an easy job. +1 rep :P
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It just makes I seem like some sort of martial law... And this is where good leadership comes in. If I was moderating that group, I would have seen he didn't speak on the forums, but he was contributing in games. For me that would have been good enough, if anything I would have sent him a PM explaining this and ask him to work on increasing his thread count.Originally Posted by Eugene
There are far better ways to handle situations that playing parliament.
"Ah madame speaker, I would like to raise a point of privilege. According to the mygaming steam group rules section 2A, it states a minimum of 20 posts need to made over 2 months or be kicked. Madame speaker with this I raise a point of power. According to section 4 paragraph 1, the mods therefore are required to boot said cockroach *cough* I mean honourable member"
This what this whole thing feels like...
The question is who is playing Zuma in all this and quietly laughing.
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The bolded bits, specifically, Wyzak asked to clarify. You even responded, by merging the two, but still saying both two months, and a long time. The two are contradicting terms, so he asked you to remove the part referring to "a long time", and then you asked if his device shows bold, as you had bolded stuff. Then you quit, with drama that I didn't witness, just the aftermath.Rules and guidelines
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Contradicting terms are ambiguity, it really doesn't get more simple than that..
Oh, well, so long as you're pretty sure..I genuinely, and simply don't care about your history with Wyzak. I dislike nearly everyone involved equally, my wife calls me a grinch. (Except for [MENTION=2530]Wyvern[/MENTION], She's a delight.) The fact is that the rules, in and of themselves, were contradicting, and thus ambiguous. I'm simply proposing that we remove the offending parts and clarify, and then we see who still wants to be trollish.
I'm sure by this point Jan will have to create a new thread for all the "derailing" posts, because this thread was specifically created for people to give feedback in with regards to what Jan suggested, not to give opinions on what happened with this whole debacle, if there was ambiguity or not.
The point of the GA Thread was that active members on the forum could give games to one another (as the whole idea is to be active on the forum as that is what helps MyG). Giving away games but not being active is great, but isn't contributing to the MyG site in any way. I'm sure Dampi had good intentions, but as time went on the rules were forgotten and things happened.
But, back to be ON TOPIC:
Others have suggested the same, but I guess I'll reitarate as well
1) Get an unqual number of mods, so there can always be consensus on a decision. The community can suggest mods, and the nominated people can decline if they so wish (Wyvern already said she does not want to be a mod again)
2) Ammend the rules to be non ambiguous. Not that they were really so to begin with, but I suppose there are 1 or 2 places where someone with a mind to do so can twist the words a bit.
3) There are 2 Steam MyG groups; one group which anyone can join, and another specifically for the giveaways. If you are so inclined, when you post a GA you can decide if only 1 or both groups can enter the GA. That is your decision as the person giving away the game.
4) The warning system would be nice, I suppose, however that also places more admin on the mods of the group. I don't think a warning system is needed though, you would know if you haven't been active on the forum for the last month or so, and so you can expect to perhaps have been kicked from the group. If you become active on the forum again, and PM one of the mods, I'm sure they wouldn't mind to reinvite said person back into the group.
5) If the mods of the group are unsure about a decision, they can always ask the community for input on a matter.
I think that is all, if I think of something else I'll edit my post.
I think it cant be summarized any better than this.
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Well said [MENTION=6280]Blazzok[/MENTION]
Also, I really feel that if this is a Steam driven initiative, then it makes sense to make use of the Steam announcements, for both groups.
My opinion on what should be done:
- It's clear that new moderators are needed as Eugene and Wyvern have now left. We should probably get nominations for new mods from the community (who would need to accept the nominations) and then have a vote on who that should be. I also agree with the general sentiment that there should be an odd number of mods so that there can be no ties where decisions need to be made.
- The rules are for the most part fine as they are. They could be clarified to include exact time frames as then there would be no ambiguity.
- I personally think a warning before being kicked from the group is fair. This should not place an extra burden on the mods, so one personal warning should suffice, followed by a blanket warning like the one that Eugene issued when he first indicated that there would be a "clean up". For example, User A hasn't been commenting on any threads in the past two months. Mod sends User A a message to inform them that they have not been following the group's rules and will be kicked if they continue to do so. User A then improves his/her behaviour for three months and then goes AWOL again. Mod then removes User A with the next clean up without needing to provide prior warning further than indicating that there will be a clean up on the main thread. This warning only needs to be issued once personally (via PM for example) for the sake of courtesy.
These are my personal feelings on the matter. If you disagree, that's cool.
[MENTION=289]Jan[/MENTION], here's my input.
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