Project Natal - All hype, no inovation?

[Dohc-WP]

this guy is very sensefull

Yoless
on 01/02/2010 12:52:16
what a crap article.

firstly, your title and conclusion are 2 different things. Will Natal be game changing, maybe (I concede that it may be gimmick) but is it an achievement? most definitely yes.

do your research please, comparing this to the EyeToy and other camera systems is retarded because they don't even do the same thing!
All you need to do is read like the first paragraph of it in wiki to find out

The depth sensor consists of an infrared projector combined with a monochrome CMOS sensor, and allows the Project Natal sensor to see in 3D under any ambient light conditions.[1][14] The sensing range of the depth sensor is adjustable, with the Project Natal software capable of automatically calibrating the sensor based on gameplay and the player's physical environment, such as the presence of chairs.

That's 3D sensing. yes 3D. MUCH more useful as a game controlling device as it allows for far many kinds of movements that just waving your hands in 2D with the EyeToy.

Add to that the promised voice recognition and other voice commansds.

Also, just becaase they've shed the processing to the Xbox (I concede, not the best of ideas) and not in Natal itself doesn't make it the periperal itself less useful, you software install/update or whatever is part of the package so how can you treat the 2 things differently?

I agree whoever wrote the article doesnt know a thing about hardware and is totally clueless on how Natal really works. Article seems like it was written by a sony fanboi and not someone who is objective and who did proper research regarding the natal hardware.

[larch]

I agree whoever wrote the article doesnt know a thing about hardware and is totally clueless on how Natal really works. Article seems like it was written by a sony fanboi and not someone who is objective and who did proper research regarding the natal hardware.

That goes for most of the people who is shooting it down in this thread. But then again I think gamers are intimidated by something new like NATAL because its an unknown entity in the gaming world. The very same thing happened with the Wii and because it has the word "motion" sensing in it they think the 360 is become "less hardcore" and more "casual" its all about the ego`s.

NATAL has some amazing applications I mean full body motion sensing in a game just think about it! Playing a adventure game like Myst or Riven using NATAL that would be an experience.

[Azimuth]

I agree whoever wrote the article doesnt know a thing about hardware and is totally clueless on how Natal really works. Article seems like it was written by a sony fanboi and not someone who is objective and who did proper research regarding the natal hardware.

Why is it that whenever anyone criticises the Xbox 360 or PS3, they're immediately and automatically dismissed as a "fanboy" of the other console? :|

I think some of you have missed the point of this guy's article - that Project Natal isn't as OMGUNPRECEDENTED as some people seem to think. Hardware specs and differences aside, Natal is a motion control technology that uses a camera to provide positional data. That's not something new. It may be a step up from the EyeToy, of course, but it's still just a step, not an entrance.

The really important - and interesting - bit will be seeing the software support.

Also, it's an opinion article. It doesn't have to be objective.

[larch]

Why is it that whenever anyone criticises the Xbox 360 or PS3, they're immediately and automatically dismissed as a "fanboy" of the other console? :|

Because crap like this usually is written by fanboys and clearly the writer has done little or no research into the subject matter, so he falls back on the age old console bashing method.

Hardware specs and differences aside, Natal is a motion control technology that uses a camera to provide positional data.

NATAL does not actually a camera in the strictest sense:

Project Natal” sensor.The “Project Natal” sensor tracks full-body movement and individual voices , creating controller-free fun and social entertainment available only on Xbox 360.

RGB camera.“Project Natal” has a video camera that delivers the three basic color components. As part of the “Project Natal” sensor, the RGB camera helps enable facial recognition and more.

Depth sensor. An infrared projector combined with a monochrome CMOS sensor allows “Project Natal” to see the room in 3-D (as opposed to inferring the room from a 2-D image) under any lighting conditions.

Multiarray microphone. “Project Natal” has a microphone that will be able to locate voices by sound and extract ambient noise. The multiarray microphone will enable headset-free Xbox LIVE party chat and more.

http://www.dreamstation.cc/news/news...ox-360-details

So its a combination of a Sensor/Camera/Depth sensor and microphone, not just a simple camera like the eyetoy.

That's not something new.

Well no one else has done this so its pretty new. Depth sensing/motion sensing and voice recognition everything in one package.

Also, it's an opinion article. It doesn't have to be objective.

A good writer researches and studies the topic thoroughly before forming a opinion, and usually he tries to be unbiased as possible. If a article is not objective and only service to slander something then its not writing anymore but crap.

[Azimuth]

Because crap like this usually is written by fanboys and clearly the writer has done little or no research into the subject matter, so he falls back on the age old console bashing method.

Please quote the offending sentence(s).

NATAL does not actually a camera in the strictest sense:

You're simply confusing the issue here. NATAL USES CAMERAS AND OTHER STUFF TO SIMULATE MOTION CONTROL.

HARDWARE MOTION CONTROL.

MOTION CONTROL.

Again, it's not something new. It's certainly taking the technology further than before, but hardware motion control is not something revolutionary in and of itself. I don't see anything in this article that moves outside this particular argument.

So its a combination of a Sensor/Camera/Depth sensor and microphone, not just a simple camera like the eyetoy.

And neither I nor the writer of this article are saying it is. But it is related, comparable technology regardless.

A good writer researches and studies the topic thoroughly before forming a opinion, and usually he tries to be unbiased as possible. If a article is not objective and only service to slander something then its not writing anymore but crap.

Once again, it's very clearly an opinion piece. Opinion pieces are largely subjective. That's kind of the whole point. Accusing this article of slander is absurd, and honestly, it's the kind of thing a fanboy does.

[larch]

Again, it's not something new. It's certainly taking the technology further than before, but hardware motion control is not something revolutionary in and of itself. I don't see anything in this article that moves outside this particular argument.

No one is saying its not motion control or that its something new but depth perception voice recognition IS something new. They basically re-invented the wheel and made it better.

Once again, it's very clearly an opinion piece. Opinion pieces are largely subjective. That's kind of the whole point. Accusing this article of slander is absurd, and honestly, it's the kind of thing a fanboy does.

No one accuses it of slander, I am saying its a badly written piece by someone who did zero research on the subject before writing it.