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    Quote Originally Posted by phoenix View Post
    As far as processing power and graphics are concerned.
    NATAL is a add-on its up to the developers to decide how their games will look like when they use the NATAL feature with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dohc-WP View Post
    I agree whoever wrote the article doesnt know a thing about hardware and is totally clueless on how Natal really works. Article seems like it was written by a sony fanboi and not someone who is objective and who did proper research regarding the natal hardware.
    Why is it that whenever anyone criticises the Xbox 360 or PS3, they're immediately and automatically dismissed as a "fanboy" of the other console? :|

    I think some of you have missed the point of this guy's article - that Project Natal isn't as OMGUNPRECEDENTED as some people seem to think. Hardware specs and differences aside, Natal is a motion control technology that uses a camera to provide positional data. That's not something new. It may be a step up from the EyeToy, of course, but it's still just a step, not an entrance.

    The really important - and interesting - bit will be seeing the software support.

    Also, it's an opinion article. It doesn't have to be objective.

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    Quote Originally Posted by larch View Post
    NATAL is a add-on its up to the developers to decide how their games will look like when they use the NATAL feature with it.
    I think phoenix was referring to the removal of all Natal processing to the Xbox itself. This is going to impact the graphics potential of Natal titles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Azimuth View Post
    I think phoenix was referring to the removal of all Natal processing to the Xbox itself. This is going to impact the graphics potential of Natal titles.
    “Natal has to work on the existing hardware without taking too much hardware processing away from the games developers,” noting that Natal consumes between 10 to 15 percent of the Xbox’s computing power.
    http://www.vg247.com/2010/01/07/nata...360-cpu-power/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Azimuth View Post
    Why is it that whenever anyone criticises the Xbox 360 or PS3, they're immediately and automatically dismissed as a "fanboy" of the other console? :|
    Because crap like this usually is written by fanboys and clearly the writer has done little or no research into the subject matter, so he falls back on the age old console bashing method.

    Quote Originally Posted by Azimuth View Post
    Hardware specs and differences aside, Natal is a motion control technology that uses a camera to provide positional data.
    NATAL does not actually a camera in the strictest sense:

    Project Natal” sensor.The “Project Natal” sensor tracks full-body movement and individual voices , creating controller-free fun and social entertainment available only on Xbox 360.
    RGB camera.“Project Natal” has a video camera that delivers the three basic color components. As part of the “Project Natal” sensor, the RGB camera helps enable facial recognition and more.
    Depth sensor. An infrared projector combined with a monochrome CMOS sensor allows “Project Natal” to see the room in 3-D (as opposed to inferring the room from a 2-D image) under any lighting conditions.
    Multiarray microphone. “Project Natal” has a microphone that will be able to locate voices by sound and extract ambient noise. The multiarray microphone will enable headset-free Xbox LIVE party chat and more.
    http://www.dreamstation.cc/news/news...ox-360-details

    So its a combination of a Sensor/Camera/Depth sensor and microphone, not just a simple camera like the eyetoy.

    Quote Originally Posted by Azimuth View Post
    That's not something new.
    Well no one else has done this so its pretty new. Depth sensing/motion sensing and voice recognition everything in one package.

    Quote Originally Posted by Azimuth View Post
    Also, it's an opinion article. It doesn't have to be objective.
    A good writer researches and studies the topic thoroughly before forming a opinion, and usually he tries to be unbiased as possible. If a article is not objective and only service to slander something then its not writing anymore but crap.
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    Quote Originally Posted by larch View Post
    I think you are missing the point of NATAL, but then again you seem to hate it before you even saw what it can do.
    my apologies of i don't fap to technologies. i really don't care what it can or can't- have looked at the gow demo and what i saw was wii brought to xbox and that imho is pretty retared. keel me, but i liked to sit down and play games. if i want to go around fooling myself to be more interactive i would rather opt for the real deal. that is what ouside is for anyways.

    really not going to cum in my pants because i can now move around my arms to for example saw down onto an enemy VS using the controller. when we can actually plug into the worlds; yes then i would fap too it. rather stick 3D glasses into my head
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    Quote Originally Posted by Necuno View Post
    my apologies of i don't fap to technologies.
    You seem to fap to games like Dantes Inferno pretty well. SO whats the difference?

    Quote Originally Posted by Necuno;174143I
    have looked at the gow demo and what i saw was wii brought to xbox and that imho is pretty retared.
    GOW demo? I am not aware that Microsoft has released any existing games that sport NATAL support. Nor that they released and video material. And I think you should note the different between motion control (wii) and motion sensing (NATAL)

    Quote Originally Posted by Necuno View Post
    Really not going to cum in my pants because i can now move around my arms to for example saw down onto an enemy VS using the controller. when we can actually plug into the worlds; yes then i would fap too it. rather stick 3D glasses into my head
    Well dont let me stop you from not coming in your pants.

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    yes we want moar.
    Quote Originally Posted by larch View Post
    GOW demo? I am not aware that Microsoft has released any existing games that sport NATAL support. Nor that they released and video material. And I think you should note the different between motion control (wii) and motion sensing (NATAL)

    pffft. if memory serves correctly you were the n00b that shared the natal and gears of war demo link
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    Quote Originally Posted by Necuno View Post
    yes we want moar.
    pffft. if memory serves correctly you were the n00b that shared the natal and gears of war demo link
    It was a Natal and Half-Life 2 video and it was proven to be fake. Noob.

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    Quote Originally Posted by larch View Post
    Because crap like this usually is written by fanboys and clearly the writer has done little or no research into the subject matter, so he falls back on the age old console bashing method.
    Please quote the offending sentence(s).

    NATAL does not actually a camera in the strictest sense:
    You're simply confusing the issue here. NATAL USES CAMERAS AND OTHER STUFF TO SIMULATE MOTION CONTROL.

    HARDWARE MOTION CONTROL.

    MOTION CONTROL.

    Again, it's not something new. It's certainly taking the technology further than before, but hardware motion control is not something revolutionary in and of itself. I don't see anything in this article that moves outside this particular argument.

    So its a combination of a Sensor/Camera/Depth sensor and microphone, not just a simple camera like the eyetoy.
    And neither I nor the writer of this article are saying it is. But it is related, comparable technology regardless.

    A good writer researches and studies the topic thoroughly before forming a opinion, and usually he tries to be unbiased as possible. If a article is not objective and only service to slander something then its not writing anymore but crap.
    Once again, it's very clearly an opinion piece. Opinion pieces are largely subjective. That's kind of the whole point. Accusing this article of slander is absurd, and honestly, it's the kind of thing a fanboy does.

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