South Africa's long walk to decline

[The Joker]

The end of apartheid was signalled 25 years ago today – but South Africa’s dreams lie in tatters

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...o-decline.html

Finally the international world can see what Zuma and the ANC are doing to our once amazing country.

[to0kenZA]

"Instead of grappling with these problems, Mr Zuma spends his time fending off a swirl of scandal and intrigue. Before he became president, he faced a battery of criminal charges amounting to no less than 783 counts of alleged corruption, fraud and racketeering."

Lollies. That's a lot of charges, yo.

[bradbear117]

ANC must go. Not sure SA will survive another 10 years of ANC's ineffectiveness.

[matt]

I must say that recently a lot more people than normal are looking into emigration, myself included. Odd that there hasn't been a major political event like someone getting assassinated that's causing a run for the borders, but it's as if everyone has just come to the realization that things are really starting to slide, and fast. I've even heard two separate stories about Zimbabweans who live here saying that what they are seeing in SA now is exactly what they saw in Zim when everything went bad there, the only difference being that it's happening faster here, which is a really scary thought.

I've always thought I'd be one of the people who would stick it out, but I see no future here for my child when he grows up unless something drastic changes, and there's no sign of change anywhere. If anything, things are going to get a lot worse before they get better.

I've already contacted immigration agents about getting a visa for Aus, and it looks like I can qualify for a 189 Skilled Independent Visa, which comes with permanent residence from the get-go, which is awesome. I've told the family and my boss that we plan to leave within the next 2 years or so. As it turns out, my brother told my parents a few days before that he's looking at moving his family to Canada, and both my wife's brothers had also told her parents recently that they are also looking to get out.

[bradbear117]

I must say that recently a lot more people than normal are looking into emigration, myself included. Odd that there hasn't been a major political event like someone getting assassinated that's causing a run for the borders, but it's as if everyone has just come to the realization that things are really starting to slide, and fast. I've even heard two separate stories about Zimbabweans who live here saying that what they are seeing in SA now is exactly what they saw in Zim when everything went bad there, the only difference being that it's happening faster here, which is a really scary thought.

I've always thought I'd be one of the people who would stick it out, but I see no future here for my child when he grows up unless something drastic changes, and there's no sign of change anywhere. If anything, things are going to get a lot worse before they get better.

I've already contacted immigration agents about getting a visa for Aus, and it looks like I can qualify for a 189 Skilled Independent Visa, which comes with permanent residence from the get-go, which is awesome. I've told the family and my boss that we plan to leave within the next 2 years or so. As it turns out, my brother told my parents a few days before that he's looking at moving his family to Canada, and both my wife's brothers had also told her parents recently that they are also looking to get out.

Wow! Amazing it seems the writing is on the wall for everyone because I have also started seriously researching immigration. I feel I have been as positive as I can be but things are just too apparent now. Also looked at Australia and New Zealand and just signed up to go to an immigration seminar in CT 3rd August because I have no clue where to start besides having a valid Passport.

[matt]

Wow! Amazing it seems the writing is on the wall for everyone because I have also started seriously researching immigration. I feel I have been as positive as I can be but things are just too apparent now. Also looked at Australia and New Zealand and just signed up to go to an immigration seminar in CT 3rd August because I have no clue where to start besides having a valid Passport.

Well aside from a passport, you need a visa that gives you the right to work and live there, and getting that takes a lot of effort, and money as it turns out. For Aus, a good place to start is to check if your profession is on their skilled occupation list https://www.immi.gov.au/Work/Pages/s...lists/sol.aspx , if it is, you can maybe get in on the general skilled migration program. That's what I'm trying.

You'll also need unabridged birth certificates (and marriage certificate if you're married) for the family, a police clearance certificate, a good CV with references, and documentation for whatever certifications or higher education you have, and you'll have to do an IELTS test to prove that you can speak English proficiently.

If you go through an agent, they will help you through all that and do all the dealing with immigration for you.

[HavocXphere]

hmm...unusual to see a newsy article on mygaming.

Made the jump myself recently. Worked out really well. Be warned its not all smooth sailing though.

[DarthMol]

My favourite line from the article:

It is not so much that he is a president with the wrong ideas, but that he has no ideas.

Sums it up so succinctly.

[RyanvF]

The DA and the EFF will demolish the ANC soon. Its the first time I feel like there is actually real opposition to the ANC.

[HavocXphere]

The DA and the EFF will demolish the ANC soon. Its the first time I feel like there is actually real opposition to the ANC.

If the 40m+ chops start voting right instead of voting for a non-performing party over & over again. Fools.