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    [MENTION=1402]Avatar[/MENTION] Fun fact; SA and Brazil are the only two Brics nations to not use MiGs. Russia, India and China all have one or more MiG squadrons. SA and Brazil both have JAS 39 Gripen multirole fighters.

    Although the Chinese do to MiGs what we did to the Mirages, modify then and rename them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PsychoFish View Post
    [MENTION=1402]Avatar[/MENTION] Fun fact; SA and Brazil are the only two Brics nations to not use MiGs. Russia, India and China all have one or more MiG squadrons. SA and Brazil both have JAS 39 Gripen multirole fighters.

    Although the Chinese do to MiGs what we did to the Mirages, modify then and rename them.
    I am sure that if we had been a fully fledged member of Brics when we were looking for new aircraft, we would've gotten those MiGs.

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    The Czech Republic also bought Gripens to replace MiGs when they joined NATO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by czc View Post
    The Czech Republic also bought Gripens to replace MiGs when they joined NATO.
    True, but that was mainly because all NATO member countries need to operate with the NATO standards. Apparently only the F-16, F/A-18, Mirage 2000, Eurofighter Typhoon and the Gripen meet those requirements.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PsychoFish View Post
    True, but that was mainly because all NATO member countries need to operate with the NATO standards. Apparently only the F-16, F/A-18, Mirage 2000, Eurofighter Typhoon and the Gripen meet those requirements.
    Yip they looked at all those.

    Plus they really needed to modernise after 2000.
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    The day started out cold and now its warm.
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    Quote Originally Posted by czc View Post
    Yip they looked at all those.

    Plus they really needed to modernise after 2000.
    True, I'm a huge fan of the Eurofighter Typhoon and Dassault Mirage so I really cannot understand the obsession with the Gripen though.

    However they likely have their reasons. I purely look at numbers :

    Maximum speed : 2,495 km/h (Typhoon) 2,336 km/h (Mirage) 2,204 km/h (Gripen) 2,120 km/h (F-16)
    Combat Radius : 1,550 km (Mirage) 1,389 km (Typhoon) 800 km (Gripen) 550 km (F-16)
    Service Ceiling : 19,812 m (Typhoon) 17,060 m (Mirage) 15,240 m (F16) 15,240 m (Gripen)
    Hardpoints : 13 (Typhoon) 11 (F16) 9 (Mirage) 8 (Gripen)

    And the kicker (approximate costs) : USD 20mil (F16) USD 23 million (Mirage) USD 60 mil (Gripen) USD 101 (Typhoon)

    So yes, I'll take a couple of Mirages any day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by czc View Post
    The day started out cold and now its warm.
    It started out cold and now hopefully it will rain soon

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    Quote Originally Posted by PsychoFish View Post
    I really cannot understand the obsession with the Gripen though.
    Bribery? Corruption? They had a similar scandal there when they got Gripens as they had here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wyvern View Post
    It started out cold and now hopefully it will rain soon
    We so badly want it to rain here. [MENTION=14824]Donisia[/MENTION] mentioned needing rain in Discord as well AFAIK.

    Some place did get 7 drops. But that counts as nothing.
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