Results of the ASUS 2010 Free State LAN Provincial Championships

[Blaze786]

Now can u really think of any gay gamers azi......

And are u saying Homosexuality is okay.....

Are you saying it isn't? A persons personal choice is their own.

[assegai]

I think that both Azimuth and Xerowing are being overly sensitive.

For a start Azimuth quite happily rattles off the "N" word, which for me as a black is offensive when used by a white. However, when the "N" word is used by a fellow black in context of the hip-hop culture, it is quite acceptable.

From what I am lead to believe is that the team are learners and that is the name chosen for themselves.

For five young boys to use that name, in a room full of other males many of whom I doubt they knew, I doubt that they were trying to be deregatory to anyone.

Think about it!

[Azimuth]

I didn't "quite happily rattle off" the word "niggers", I made a legitimate comparison. And you've still not answered my question - would a team of white kids called "niggers" be allowed? What about gamers bandying about the word "fags" being offensive to gay people? Did you think about that, or are you one of those guys who thinks it's okay because gays are cheap targets?

I'm not being overly sensitive. I'm suggesting that, as a competition organiser, you're allowing competitors to use hateful names. And frankly, your press release looks a disgrace with a name like that on it. I've seen the MSSA come under a lot of criticism recently, and this can only add to it.

[Xero]

This has nothing to do with being overly senstiive, in fact I skipped the last 29 years worth of Sensitivity training Camps in my area
This has to do with setting an example by not allowing what can be categorized as hate speech in your comps.
Context has nothing to do with it, neither does the setting in which it is used.

[assegai]

@ Azimuth

I do not think that you read my last post closely enough.

The "N" word is used with great acceptance by people who are black. All you have to do is listen to the music produced today. However, if a white person called himself a "Mlungu" it would not be seen as derogatory, but if a black person called a white person such it would be seen to be derogatory.

And so it is with many words.

And then there are words with many different meanings. There are at least three different meanings for the word in question.

So, instead of giving anyone the benefit of the doubt, you race off at a tangent.

I can not speak for the MSSA, but perhaps the name was chosen in all innocence.

And yes, a group of black gamers may very well call themselves "Niggas".

[Blaze786]

@ Azimuth

I do not think that you read my last post closely enough.

The "N" word is used with great acceptance by people who are black. All you have to do is listen to the music produced today. However, if a white person called himself a "Mlungu" it would not be seen as derogatory, but if a black person called a white person such it would be seen to be derogatory.

And so it is with many words.

And then there are words with many different meanings. There are at least three different meanings for the word in question.

So, instead of giving anyone the benefit of the doubt, you race off at a tangent.

I can not speak for the MSSA, but perhaps the name was chosen in all innocence.

And yes, a group of black gamers may very well call themselves "Niggas".

I am sorry but your argument is lax at best.

A group of black gamers would not be able to call themselves "Niggas" well not in a tournament hosted by competant organisers anyway. Just becuase it does not offend the "5" players in the clan, there are a number of black people who would be offended and it is for that reason, organisations like the MSSA should not allow the use of offensive or derogatory terms, regardless of the people using them.

Its just bad hosting in my opinion and as I have said before, the MSSA are just as much of a joke as your argument.

Edit: You can quote the person, instead of using @ User.

[Azimuth]

@ Azimuth

I do not think that you read my last post closely enough.

The "N" word is used with great acceptance by people who are black. All you have to do is listen to the music produced today. However, if a white person called himself a "Mlungu" it would not be seen as derogatory, but if a black person called a white person such it would be seen to be derogatory.

And so it is with many words.

And then there are words with many different meanings. There are at least three different meanings for the word in question.

So, instead of giving anyone the benefit of the doubt, you race off at a tangent.

I can not speak for the MSSA, but perhaps the name was chosen in all innocence.

And yes, a group of black gamers may very well call themselves "Niggas".

Quite on the contrary, I think it's you who is refusing to see what I'm saying - not least of all, because I KEEP ASKING, WOULD A TEAM OF WHITE KIDS BE ALLOWED TO CALL THEMSELVES "NIGGERS"? AND IF NOT, WHY IS IT OKAY FOR A BUNCH OF STRAIGHT KIDS - AND THEY MUST BE STRAIGHT, BECAUSE NO HIGH SCHOOL BOYS WOULD OUT THEMSELVES IN A COMPETITION, BECAUSE THEY'D GET THE SHIT KICKED OUT OF THEM - TO CALL THEIR CLAN "FAGS"?

Until you've answered those two questions, everything you say is irrelevant.

The word "fags" is simply unambiguously offensive as a clan name in a provincial competition. Stop pretending it isn't. I'm starting to go with the "MSSA are a joke" crowd.

[The Joker]

http://www.audioenglish.net/dictionary/fag.htm