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    http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...l#xtor=RSS-182


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    Five and a half years ago, AMD launched its Athlon 64 processor lineup, extolling the benefits of 64-bit computing and what it’d mean for the future. It didn’t take Intel long to follow suit on the desktop. From there, the infrastructure—the operating systems and drivers—began falling into place to support more 64-bit software.

    Today, 64-bit compatibility is almost a given. In fact, in the business space, where 64-bit computing has always been seen to have the most promise, applications have emerged that will only run in 64-bit. Even Small Business Server 2008, a relatively entry-level operating environment for businesses with up to 75 users, is now 64-bit-only due to its inclusion of Exchange Server 2007.

    Why did Microsoft make the executive decision to launch its latest messaging platform exclusively in 64-bit trim? According to a blog post by Chris Mitchell in Microsoft’s Exchange Performance Engineering Team, the application uses 64-bit addressing to get its virtual hands on more system memory, preventing repeated trips back and forth to disk. In Chris’ example, an older version of Exchange might have access to 900 MB of a 32-bit server’s 4 GB ceiling. In a 4,000-user enterprise, that's 225 KB of RAM per user—not nearly enough for all of the messages, rules, calendar entries, and contacts in a typical mailbox. Moving to 64-bit and upgrading servers to 10s of gigabytes (Chris’ recommendation in that same 4,000-user business is 24 GB) softens the load on storage.

    But desktops aren’t nearly as hard-up for memory, right? We expected 64-bit computing to trickle down from the enterprise, but gamers want to know: where is the benefit from this technology today?......
    /LARGEADDRESSAWARE flag whoot ?
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    During our brief discussion with Chuck, he mentioned enthusiasts modifying game executables by adding the /LARGEADDRESSAWARE flag, thereby improving the stability of a 32-bit application that might have otherwise been prone to crashing. This is something we saw mentioned several times in support forums and we wanted to address it as a possible solution for those running 32-bit games without large address support on a 64-bit version of Windows. Some of the games that reportedly benefit include Stalker, Battlefield 2, Battlefield 2142, Supreme Commander, Company of Heroes, and Gothic 3
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    I have been running 64 bit for over a year now. Only games that have had issues with them were the latest leisure suit larry and zoo tycoon. With zoo tycoon if you limit the os to only use 2 gig of ram then you can get it to work but with the larry game I have found no way to get it to work.

    All my other games work fine and in some cases like the witcher they work better.

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    I think we will still have to wait a while till 64bit is going to be better than 32 bit. What I read is that apps or games needs to be write from scratch in 64bit and only for 64bit

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    Quote Originally Posted by DiceAir View Post
    I think we will still have to wait a while till 64bit is going to be better than 32 bit. What I read is that apps or games needs to be write from scratch in 64bit and only for 64bit
    Not really games needs lots of ram already run better under 64 bit os.

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    There hasn't been nearly as much of an uptake of 64bit as I would have expected you know... weird.
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    going to mod some .exe and see what happens- /LARGEADDRESSAWARE

    C:\Program Files (x86)\Ubisoft\Demo\Tom Clancy's H.A.W.X>Editbin.exe /LARGEADDRESSAWARE hawx.exe
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    Just a few more years, then everything is going to be 64bit.
    Hardware vendors don't sell anything else anymore. So, the hardware side is done. It is just the software guys left that need to catch up. Virtually all computer hardware being sold are 64bit machines.

    Oh and don't make a mistake, 64bit installations are on the rise. It will continue that way.
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    ...digging futher i found The LaaTiDo utility, which also does the LARGEADDRESSAWARE thing, going to try that see what happens. its allot smaller that getting the vs express or full vs installation

    amd LAA "whitepaper"
    http://www.amd.com/us-en/assets/cont..._4GT-_6204.pdf

    apparently this can also have your 32b apps in 32b os access more memory by passing the 2G limits, see the above amd laa whitepapre.

    *obviously take note this can ***k things up, so remember to backup your .exe before you do the mod. you can also turn the laa off- but always good practice just to have spare exe somewhere safe
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