PS3 Hacked...again

Lets hope it's easy for sony to kill, the PS3 was the last console developers could creat for and know no piracy would happen, last line of confidence I suppose
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While I think modchipping and piracy in general is the worst sort of pukescummery
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I think a term like pukescummery is a tad strong. There are also other reasons to hack the PS3 other than simply copying games. Besides which, what is wrong with backing up a game that you own onto the HDD of the PS3.

One other reason to hack the PS3 might to watch DVD's from other regions. I own a bunch of Region 1 DVDs that my playstation just refuses to play. I would like to import some Blu-Rays but I wont for fear that I can't watch them.

Then we come to the fact that I own the darn console I paid a good few thousand for, why in the heck should I not be allowed to tamper with it? It is mine. I did not lease the thing from Sony, I paid to own it.

Also, as I understand it, some of the functionality which Sony has disabled over the past two years can be re-enabled by making some software tweaks.

To end, when will all these people who are so anti-piracy begin to understand that piracy is as popular as it is because a world of instant communication and transfer requires new business models. Also, just because sales are down on one side of the scale doesn't mean there isn't a balancing factor; less CD sales but more concert ticket sales.
 
ebudae said:
Besides which, what is wrong with backing up a game that you own onto the HDD of the PS3.
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The fact that Blu Ray discs are so resilient in general kind of makes any sort of "backup" a moot point. I mean, you really have to make a mission of it to scratch the disc. So why would you want to back it up?
 
Dude, try and justify piracy as you will, it is wrong. That being said, I do feel games are too expensive, especially AAA titles just released.

As for importing Blu-Rays, do so, but just check the ASIN number of each movie and then search said movie on http://www.cinemasquid.com/home and then click on the movies specs and search for the movies ASIN number on that site. Compare and check region of movie and so order the correct movies. I've already ordered Terminator 1 & 2 from Amazon UK for WAY cheaper than local and no problem.
 
I'm with ebudae on this.

I couldn't be arsed with pirating, but from an electrical eng/embedded background I _LOVE_ tweaking with things that belong to me.

Back in the day I built a flash module to customize my Nokia 3310, this doesn't mean I stopped paying for phone calls - I just played around with it and made it fun.

The PS3's previous ability to run linux made it an excellent toy far more than Sony bargained for. So much so that the US defense force used them for supercomputing clusters.

I'd love to be able to copy a game to my HDD. It's the same as having a 10-tray CD shuttle in your car ... so to speak.

But yeah, the region thing is a big bonus too. I've bricked my one dvd-rom on my pc back in the day from trying to bypass the Region locking (which you can change 5 times before it locks permanently) and I didn't appreciate that.

I agree that justifying piracy is wrong, but lambasting the potential & equipment modifications of something to be used for piracy is equally wrong. In essence your mom has all the potential and equipment to be a prostitute, that doesn't mean she is one.
 
Personally I feel Pirate if you want to... its you choice, and you can pirate if you want to... (sounds like song in there).
But hacking a piece of hardware that cost me R5000+ (Yes I bought back in the day)... I dont like that Idea. Ill rather wait for games to go Platinum if I dont have the money to buy the game when it gets released.
 
Pls don't get me wrong, I have no issue with people modding and fiddling their equipment. I think it's very cool what some okes can do. Besides, using this dongle, from what I have read, it does not void your warranty in any way as you are not opening the PS3 or anything. And even backing up games that you legally own is in my opinion fine, but lets be honest, this is a technology that will be primarily used for pirating unfortunately.

And yes, pirate if you want to, but remember, don't do the crime if you can't do the time.
 
m3n4ce said:
Personally I feel Pirate if you want to... its you choice, and you can pirate if you want to... (sounds like song in there).
But hacking a piece of hardware that cost me R5000+ (Yes I bought back in the day)... I dont like that Idea. Ill rather wait for games to go Platinum if I dont have the money to buy the game when it gets released.
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I don't agree. Piracy is a criminal offense. It's like saying "highjack and kill people if you want to, it's your choice"?? It should NEVER be condoned and by telling people it's some sort of choice that's accepted by some people is just plain stupid.

This topic has been split in 2 categories. One side is arguing that the device has been altered to allow discs to be copied to the console itself and in a sense it's a harmless and, very practical, modification. The other category is that this alteration now allows for mass piracy to ensue on the PS3 platform.

Now you have to ask yourself why was this modification designed. Was it designed to be a practical tool to simply copy games you own to your console, or was it designed to allow people to pirate the content on the PS3?

Personally I think the latter is why it was made. The fact that PS3 content was so difficult to pirate drove people insane and some lame geek "holy war" was waged on the platform's security until it was finally broken.

To go out and modify something to do something it was never designed to is stupid in its own right. You don't buy a washing machine and modify the snot out of it so that it can pave your driveway. What makes this worse is that a modification was built in order to promote something that is a CRIME.

My personal opinion: anyone caught with pirated software on their PS3 deserves to have their PS3's bricked in such a way that it NEVER becomes usable again. In fact, Sony shouldn't just software-brick the machine, they should maliciously introduce a patch on those machines that causes it to burst out into flames, hopefully injuring the pirating MORON sitting behind the console with 3rd degree burns to his/her face.

Thanks :cool:
 
From the vids i've seen they don't show any gameplay... and the games they used can be bought from the psn store. So maybe it's fake?
 
@neo thats a bit harsh bru, but yeah i also don't think this hack will last long Sony will release a hardcoded updated for one of their games and screw the pirates in their asses (pardon the language).

As for the hackers get over it, PS3 users have got aroud the fact that it wasnt hackable and own the games original granted that they are particularly cautious about their purchases, i myself got a relatively fair collection going for my console going. As for piracy leave it to the xbox users they seem to enoy it. Lmao.

But i have been getting the vibe that not much people are worried about the hack i made mention of it to some of my friends and they were ashes about it saying sony would just lock it down again and cause interuptions to the servers they play on. So to ever uses it have fun, enjoy and if neo prediction comes true well you can't go complaining to sony for the 3rd degree burns you were warned.
 
and that is the end of that didnt eve last that long and Sony already going to put full bans in place guess only the offline players are saved.
 
DenSweeP said:
That being said, I do feel games are too expensive, especially AAA titles just released.
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I Agree fully. I wont ever mod my PS3 however.

I've put off buying games the last couple of months, its just too expensive and I am of the impression that console gamers are being taken for a massive ride when it comes to game pricing. I mean, sales like the recent Incredible Connection game sale where relatively new releases went for R149 boggles my mind. Surely these games were not sold at a loss????, so then how do you justify a title like God of War 3 being R600+ the one day, and then next day on sale for R149. Makes no sense.
 
Neo said:
I don't agree. Piracy is a criminal offense. It's like saying "highjack and kill people if you want to, it's your choice"?? It should NEVER be condoned and by telling people it's some sort of choice that's accepted by some people is just plain stupid.

This topic has been split in 2 categories. One side is arguing that the device has been altered to allow discs to be copied to the console itself and in a sense it's a harmless and, very practical, modification. The other category is that this alteration now allows for mass piracy to ensue on the PS3 platform.

Now you have to ask yourself why was this modification designed. Was it designed to be a practical tool to simply copy games you own to your console, or was it designed to allow people to pirate the content on the PS3?

Personally I think the latter is why it was made. The fact that PS3 content was so difficult to pirate drove people insane and some lame geek "holy war" was waged on the platform's security until it was finally broken.

To go out and modify something to do something it was never designed to is stupid in its own right. You don't buy a washing machine and modify the snot out of it so that it can pave your driveway. What makes this worse is that a modification was built in order to promote something that is a CRIME.

My personal opinion: anyone caught with pirated software on their PS3 deserves to have their PS3's bricked in such a way that it NEVER becomes usable again. In fact, Sony shouldn't just software-brick the machine, they should maliciously introduce a patch on those machines that causes it to burst out into flames, hopefully injuring the pirating MORON sitting behind the console with 3rd degree burns to his/her face.

Thanks :cool:
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+1 hehehe
 
symbolofmylife said:
Surely these games were not sold at a loss????
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Yes they were. Incredible Connection always sell games at a loss when they have these sales, due to the fact that they do not have any consignment purchase agreement with the distributors, they have to choose between either sitting with stock on the floor (which is clearly not moving due to their mad pricing) or settle for getting some funds back by selling it at a loss.

I'm not exactly sure what the reseller markup is, but it's not that much. On a R600 game a retailer would probably make about R100, if that much. (Guys like Moody and Am_nesia would probably be able to confirm this, but it entirely depends on what they're allowed to disclose.)

I've seen distributor price lists in the past including the intended markup of the relevant store and the markup is generally along those lines.

R150 would not even cover half the price the distributor paid to get the game into the country in the first place.

Whilst these sales are WONDERFUL for the consumer, it does however create a malformed idea with consumer that games are overpriced.
 
Retailers are not the people who determine the prices of games. It is the publishers/developers etc. Retailers are probably not making more than 10% on a title.
 
I am a retailer and normally we make between 10 - 15 % on it. I only sell games to get some feet in the shop....
 
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