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    I support NAG though I dont use the forum maybe twice 3 years ago.
    I read through the article and so on, the only think that bothers me is my question.
    Do they value a freelance article writer more than a reader/customer/fan if thats the case what would happen if 500 or even more readers didnt buy the magezine after reading this?
    I buy NAG to get the DVD and to look for the badger nothing else.

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    The mag isn't bad but I stopped visiting their forum years ago.

    Constant fascist thread-locking and petty name-calling in almost every thread. Bleh.

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    I think I've only ever once bought a NAG mag, and that's when they released it with a copy of Fifa2006 - which I've also never bothered installing.

    I don't know hey, I'm funny like that. The last PC format I bought was in April '98 (which might have been one of their 1st now that I think of it)

    I prefer doing my reading/research online... but that's just me.

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    I’ve waited for what I consider a fair amount of time.

    In my defence, I did reply (last week Wednesday) directly to the person that sent in the original complaint and invited him to post my reply wherever he liked. It’s not surprising that he hasn’t done this and is therefore just another troublemaker that wasn’t really looking for a reply. He also posted on www.hellopeter.com before he even sent me a mail. I was under the impression that you first contact the company responsible for whatever you’re not happy about and then if they don’t give you a satisfactory reply you take it further... This is just me however.

    In essence, I’ve implemented a swearword filter on the site (PG13) – even though I realise this wasn’t the real issue, and I’ve instructed the moderators to behave accordingly. I do agree with some of the points raised and I will take steps to correct any problems.

    There’s a lot of negativity towards the magazine, the forums and even the people that work there. I respect everyone’s opinions, but I won’t take any notice of those replies that are crude or factually incorrect. Interestingly, most of the factually incorrect posts are usually crude - supporting my reasoning.

    I’d just like to state that we’re not arrogant – just very straightforward in the magazine. We’re writing opinions pieces on almost everything all the time. Depending on this opinion, it can sometimes appear that the tone is arrogant. But, we’re not writing text for stupid people – gamers are smart and I’m assuming generally the kind of people that won’t enjoy a magazine that panders to everyone’s sensitivities. So, yes, we’re harsh and tell it like it is. If this standpoint offends a small minority of people there’s not much we can do about it. No matter what we do or say there will always be people that don’t like us. The important thing to remember is that we’re not doing anything for the wrong reasons and never operate from a negative point of view. The magazine is fun to do. We don’t all gather around the boardroom table to try and find ways to be full of it. I’ve read some very arrogant and scathing posts on these forums (and others), which is okay... because it’s not... what? I can’t figure it out. We’re exactly the same, but just speak to more people and in a printed format.

    I’m not sure what else I can say here, considering this is hostile territory. I just hope this has cleared up some of the new issues and answered the original issue.

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    Kudos to you Redtide and thanks for the pro-active steps taken to avoid something similar happening!

    I definitely hope this resolves the issue that the OP had with NAG.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RedTide View Post
    I’ve waited for what I consider a fair amount of time.

    In my defence, I did reply (last week Wednesday) directly to the person that sent in the original complaint and invited him to post my reply wherever he liked. It’s not surprising that he hasn’t done this and is therefore just another troublemaker that wasn’t really looking for a reply. He also posted on www.hellopeter.com before he even sent me a mail. I was under the impression that you first contact the company responsible for whatever you’re not happy about and then if they don’t give you a satisfactory reply you take it further... This is just me however.

    In essence, I’ve implemented a swearword filter on the site (PG13) – even though I realise this wasn’t the real issue, and I’ve instructed the moderators to behave accordingly. I do agree with some of the points raised and I will take steps to correct any problems.

    There’s a lot of negativity towards the magazine, the forums and even the people that work there. I respect everyone’s opinions, but I won’t take any notice of those replies that are crude or factually incorrect. Interestingly, most of the factually incorrect posts are usually crude - supporting my reasoning.

    I’d just like to state that we’re not arrogant – just very straightforward in the magazine. We’re writing opinions pieces on almost everything all the time. Depending on this opinion, it can sometimes appear that the tone is arrogant. But, we’re not writing text for stupid people – gamers are smart and I’m assuming generally the kind of people that won’t enjoy a magazine that panders to everyone’s sensitivities. So, yes, we’re harsh and tell it like it is. If this standpoint offends a small minority of people there’s not much we can do about it. No matter what we do or say there will always be people that don’t like us. The important thing to remember is that we’re not doing anything for the wrong reasons and never operate from a negative point of view. The magazine is fun to do. We don’t all gather around the boardroom table to try and find ways to be full of it. I’ve read some very arrogant and scathing posts on these forums (and others), which is okay... because it’s not... what? I can’t figure it out. We’re exactly the same, but just speak to more people and in a printed format.

    I’m not sure what else I can say here, considering this is hostile territory. I just hope this has cleared up some of the new issues and answered the original issue.
    Thanks for the reply Redtide. I would not say this is quite hostile territory (I love NAG), there are a few people here who do support the magazine. I would never hold the magazine accountable for one persons actions. Not missing an issue for at least five years should be proof of that. We should all be supporting local publications, they can only get better that way, just look how they've improved since 1998.

    Long live New Age Gaming.

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    The quality of the reviews for both games and hardware is definately not up to standard. I used to buy NAG on a regular basis but i've recently moved over to SACM since it's focused on hardware. NAG is trying to cram everything into the magazine and doesn't contain anything of a particularly high standard.

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    Hi Redtide

    Thanks for taking the time to respond. Forums are not an easy environment to control and one must get all the facts before even thinking of making a judgment. I personally think NAG magazine is leading in its class – and from the distribution numbers many gamers agree – but it is inevitable that conflict will arise in an online environment and I guess some people will link it to the NAG team.

    It can usually be amicably resolved unless one of the parties is unreasonable, and I am sure in this case it will happen.

    Regards,

    RPM

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    Well, I got a couple views on this. First thing is, I honestly don't think the swearing is a problem. From a member of staff, sure, and I'd expect the writers to be more mature than that.

    On another hand, getting pissed off with someone over the internet makes absolutely no sense to me. Internet drama is almost as bad as South African TV shows o.O

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    You're wrong - Interwebz drama is waaaya better than 7de Laan !
    However and forgive me for deviating slightly off topic here , but the question should not be one of Is this acceptable or not, but does the level of anonymity the internet grants us sometimes threaten to overpower both our common sense and basic human civility ?

    I know that I have a very strict no BS policy on our forums, and I regularly weild the ban hammer to defend it, I simply see forums as one of two kinds
    1- Productive and informative
    2-Flaming with Sarcasm and hostility

    I prefer visiting and being part of the former , while trying to avoid the latter at all costs.

    @ Redtide
    It hardly seems fair to brand this fledgling forum and its community as "Hostile".
    The opinions raised were exactly that , and should be treated as such.

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