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    So because someone else said it first, it's okay? I see people everywhere writing "your" instead of "you're". Doesn't make it right. :P

    Conceptually, it just doesn't make sense to "clock" a physical quantity of something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Azimuth View Post
    So because someone else said it first, it's okay? I see people everywhere writing "your" instead of "you're". Doesn't make it right. :P

    Conceptually, it just doesn't make sense to "clock" a physical quantity of something.
    And you're the only one who cares. I think that most would agree that clock in has come to refer to time or quantity in modern conversation or writing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lycanking View Post
    And you're the only one who cares. I think that most would agree that clock in has come to refer to time or quantity in modern conversation or writing.
    And it's become almost acceptable to write "could care less" when you mean "couldn't care less". You know, exactly the opposite. People should stop and think about what they're actually writing.

    And I daresay I'm not the only one who cares. Anyone who cares about language cares about this stuff. And everybody should care about language. It's how we make sense of the world around us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Azimuth View Post
    And it's become almost acceptable to write "could care less" when you mean "couldn't care less". You know, exactly the opposite. People should stop and think about what they're actually writing.

    And I daresay I'm not the only one who cares. Anyone who cares about language cares about this stuff. And everybody should care about language. It's how we make sense of the world around us.
    I don't really care about language all that much, but having spent 4 years of my life studying Language Practice I also notice most of these common mistakes that people make every day. I am even guilty of some of these transgressions myself. Most of the time I just ignore them, but there are some that really irritate me to no end. An example of this would be the (erroneous) Afrikaans expressions "Ek doen" or "Ek doen nie" that I hear on almost a daily basis. I almost always want to ask them "Wat doen jy?"
    I assume people use it in the same sense as the English "I do" and "I don't", but it sounds so horrible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Azimuth View Post
    And it's become almost acceptable to write "could care less" when you mean "couldn't care less". You know, exactly the opposite. People should stop and think about what they're actually writing.

    And I daresay I'm not the only one who cares. Anyone who cares about language cares about this stuff. And everybody should care about language. It's how we make sense of the world around us.
    Indeed, and culture is the means through which we interpret language so provided the majority understand your meaning and find it to be socially acceptable, your incorrect use of a term is in fact culturally correct.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shamrock View Post
    I've seen you use l33tsp34k in articles all the time, possibly the greatest slap with a penis in the face to the English language since my Afrikaans friend wrote Shakespearean fanfiction.
    I seldom use leetspeak without an implied sense of irony or scorn, and I'd hardly say it happens "all the time". I'd also add that, as someone who writes impeccable English everywhere else, and understands the language down to esoteric points of grammar and punctuation, I'm allowed to consciously break a rule here and there for amusement. Artistic licence.

    Having said that, however, I'm not convinced leetspeak is rule-breaking as such. Because...

    Quote Originally Posted by Lycanking View Post
    Indeed, and culture is the means through which we interpret language so provided the majority understand your meaning and find it to be socially acceptable, your incorrect use of a term is in fact culturally correct.
    Slang and incorrect language usage are two different things. I really don't understand what's got you so stroppy about this. I offered some constructive criticism about the magazine - and sincerely at that, because I think community projects like this are great. But using random initial capitals all over the place, for example, just looks awful and unprofessional, because it's incorrect. Granted, the broken metaphor is a more subtle error, but I passed it by several friends, asking if they'd object to the expression, all of whom agreed that it was conceptually problematic.

    I'd have a rant here about the current state of education and the rapidly declining quality of written English among young people, but I won't. Pretend I did.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Azimuth View Post
    I seldom use leetspeak without an implied sense of irony or scorn, and I'd hardly say it happens "all the time". I'd also add that, as someone who writes impeccable English everywhere else, and understands the language down to esoteric points of grammar and punctuation, I'm allowed to consciously break a rule here and there for amusement. Artistic licence.
    Fair enough. And when you use it it's always in irony, but at the same time, saying something like "clocks in at 48 pages" isn't necessarily incorrect if you look at it as slang. It's people's general invention and adaption of the word.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shamrock View Post
    Fair enough. And when you use it it's always in irony, but at the same time, saying something like "clocks in at 48 pages" isn't necessarily incorrect if you look at it as slang. It's people's general invention and adaption of the word.
    Except "clocks in" is not slang.

    Look, you can argue all you like, but I'm the qualified English teacher. ;P

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    My apologies for perpetually derailing your thread, Abev. All respects due, but I simply have to add this tit bit.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lycanking View Post
    Indeed, and culture is the means through which we interpret language so provided the majority understand your meaning and find it to be socially acceptable, your incorrect use of a term is in fact culturally correct.
    The European Commission has just announced an agreement whereby English will be the official language of the EU rather than German, which was the other possibility.

    As part of the negotiations, Her Majesty's Government conceded that English spelling had some room for improvement and has accepted a five year phase-in plan that would be known as "Euro-English".

    In the first year, "s" will replace the soft "c". Sertainly, this will make the sivil servants jump with joy. The hard "c" will be dropped in favour of the "k". This should klear up konfusion and keyboards kan have 1 less letter.

    There will be growing publik enthusiasm in the sekond year, when the troublesome "ph" will be replaced with "f". This will make words like "fotograf" 20% shorter.

    In the 3rd year, publik akseptanse of the new spelling kan be ekspekted to reach the stage where more komplikated changes are possible. Governments will enkorage the removal of double letters, which have always ben a deterent to akurate speling. Also, al wil agre that the horible mes of the silent "e"s in the language is disgraseful, and they should go away.

    By the fourth year, peopl wil be reseptiv to steps such as replasing "th" with "z" and "w" with "v". During ze fifz year, ze unesesary "o" kan be dropd from vords kontaining "ou" and similar changes vud of kors be aplid to ozer kombinations of leters.

    After zis fifz yer, ve vil hav a reli sensibl riten styl. Zer vil be no mor trubl or difikultis and evrivun vil find it ezi to understand ech ozer. Ze drem vil finali kum tru! And zen world!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Voicy View Post
    My apologies for perpetually derailing your thread, Abev. All respects due, but I simply have to add this tit bit.



    The European Commission has just announced an agreement whereby English will be the official language of the EU rather than German, which was the other possibility.

    As part of the negotiations, Her Majesty's Government conceded that English spelling had some room for improvement and has accepted a five year phase-in plan that would be known as "Euro-English".

    In the first year, "s" will replace the soft "c". Sertainly, this will make the sivil servants jump with joy. The hard "c" will be dropped in favour of the "k". This should klear up konfusion and keyboards kan have 1 less letter.

    There will be growing publik enthusiasm in the sekond year, when the troublesome "ph" will be replaced with "f". This will make words like "fotograf" 20% shorter.

    In the 3rd year, publik akseptanse of the new spelling kan be ekspekted to reach the stage where more komplikated changes are possible. Governments will enkorage the removal of double letters, which have always ben a deterent to akurate speling. Also, al wil agre that the horible mes of the silent "e"s in the language is disgraseful, and they should go away.

    By the fourth year, peopl wil be reseptiv to steps such as replasing "th" with "z" and "w" with "v". During ze fifz year, ze unesesary "o" kan be dropd from vords kontaining "ou" and similar changes vud of kors be aplid to ozer kombinations of leters.

    After zis fifz yer, ve vil hav a reli sensibl riten styl. Zer vil be no mor trubl or difikultis and evrivun vil find it ezi to understand ech ozer. Ze drem vil finali kum tru! And zen world!

    sauce

    The result of babysteps in leniency?
    Hahahahaha!!!! You just made my night, I haven't laughed that hard in long long time. I thank you. Lol
    To the thread topic, this sounds like an awesome little job, too bad my writing skills aren't all that impressive, or funny.

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