Beware promises of unshaped bandwidth which prioritizes gaming

Cybersmart CEO Laurie Fialkov said that the terms “prioritized gaming traffic” and “unshaped services” do not belong in the same sentence.
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Speaking to MyGaming, Fialkov said that all products that use IPC – irrespective of which ISP you are using – should have basically the same experience, assuming the IPC is not full.
Disagree. Firstly gaming isn't just local...so the quality of the international data (which differs by ISP) matters. And even on a local level there are sizable difference in latency and jitter between ISPs. On top of that it depends on which server your using. i.e. Generally IS accounts will have an edge on IS game servers.

He added that because of the rapid rate at which new games and updates are being delivered to consumers, it is almost impossible to effectively shape or prioritize gaming.
huh? You can certainly prioritise the bigger ones - they don't change the underlying networking code all that often (CSGO, WoW etc)

“We are throwing away our shapers in the next 3 months. We have already decommissioned one of the six we have, and the rest will follow soon,” said Fialkov.
That makes little sense. Even with old signatures it should still have a positive effect on prioritising. This sounds more like a marketing move to me - unshaped sells better than shaped.

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Which brings me to a bit of a rant (general rant, not directly CyberSmart related). Gather round kids...you might learn something. :p

People don't get that well executed shaping is superior to unshaped. If you're downloading something from usenet it makes little difference whether that data arrives in 20ms or in 2000ms...as long as the throughput is high it doesn't matter one bit on user experience. Other protocols are time sensitive though (gaming, skype etc). So on a very basic level it makes sense to prioritise these ("shape") - it results in the best overall use of ISPs resources and then best bang per buck for the users.

Unfortunately SA ISPs (and other country's ISPs) are bastards that saw shaping as a way of squeezing more profit out of users. Simply put they piled too many users (income) onto too little capacity (expense). Naturally that killed performance across the board. To make that shtshow somewhat bearable they rolled in shaping - that forces the time sensitive protocols back into territory that is usable...but does so by shaping everything else straight into the ground. Thats why shaping has a bad rep...because ISPs used it to cover up the fact that they're overselling their capacity massively.
 
I thought cybersmart has a pretty poor reputation from my readings on mybb.

Also I have always had good luck with regular capped accounts.
 
I thought cybersmart has a pretty poor reputation from my readings on mybb.

Also I have always had good luck with regular capped accounts.

Strangly enough same here everyone say's stay away and well I have looked at them a few times but just never trust them so never got any type of connection from them.

Mostly I have had troubles with telkom line and with afrihost ipc problems last year.
O I once made the horible mistake in trusting Incredible connection for a 10meg connection priced the same as a 4meg connection only to be shaped into the ground after using 20gigs in 2 day's.
That was one of the angriest emails I have ever send to support.
 
It's amazing how little lag I experience on my account. No really, it is literally the best account I have ever owned.

It's been many years, but online gaming on Cybersmart was one of the worst experiences I have ever had, second only to Openweb. MWEB wasn't that much better either...

Someone should go show Laurie how to run an ISP...
 
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