Fivel
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True Graal, but people like myself who are undecided about the game, are really put off by this.
SimCity launch shameful: don't buy it yet (or at all) - MyGaming column
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True Graal, but people like myself who are undecided about the game, are really put off by this.
Graal
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Lyt
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Yes, but you don't do the following like some of our members here do.
LOL nice one Graal, made my day. I think the reason why reviewers gave it such a good score is they reviewed the game before the official launch, hence no connectivity problems. Everybody is bitching about it now not because the game is bad but how EA screwed up with the servers. I mean cmon, the game was long awaited, they should have anticipated the amount of traffic there would be.
Graal
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Yeah, the thing is it's easy to say they screwed up, but consider the way the market has changed in the last few years. A few years back they would have been able to plan their back-end architecture based on the amount of physical units they shipped and it should have been fine. But now, we live in a mostly digital world and digital copies cannot run out. There's a near-infinite source of possible sales from countless digital retailers, making planning your capacity effectively before launch day very difficult.
That said, I feel Maxis really should have planned better and I find it hard to believe they thought they could get away with the paltry amount of servers they put up at first, but it's still an interesting prospect to factor into the equation.
That said, I feel Maxis really should have planned better and I find it hard to believe they thought they could get away with the paltry amount of servers they put up at first, but it's still an interesting prospect to factor into the equation.
Ike_009
Assassin of Accountants
It sucks for all parties really. I wonder how much of this is due to a couple of big titles screwing over gamers and this is a tipping point. Like you said earlier, people who haven't even touched the thing are crying, this can't just be due to the server issue here.
One thing I forgot to add earlier to the whole cost of this thing is that it must cost them a small fortune to run all of these servers. All of those costs and so much user unhappiness. Is it really worth it? I'm going to say no it isn't. I'm guessing but I'd say that more people will stay away from the game because of the DRM than the number of pirates that will be converted into sales.
Vorastra pasted this link on the article for those who thought that EA and Maxis might fix the game properly by adding offline play.
http://www.polygon.com/2013/3/9/408...of-offlining-simcity-but-will-look-into-it-to
I wonder if they will reconsider their position when the game is cracked.
http://www.polygon.com/2013/3/9/408...of-offlining-simcity-but-will-look-into-it-to
I wonder if they will reconsider their position when the game is cracked.
StaggerLee
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Graal, you are right to an extent, many of the people complaining are those who do not own the game, though I doubt that anyone who bought the game and is having issues with it are happy.
The reason that this is the case is because the heart of the issue isn't with the game itself, which is something that I suspect you have missed in the slew of angry, rage-y comments about the game. The problem is that this is an indication of the direction of the games industry as a whole. Those of us who do not own the game and are complaining about it, are doing so because we are trying to illustrate that we as gaming consumers are being taken advantage of. EA and other large companies are forcing online requirements on us without feeling the need to adequately test for potential server issues before-hand. This blatant disregard for the consumer speaks volumes about how they feel about their customers.
For example, if you go to a restaurant and a waiter treats you badly, is rude to you and brings you half of what you ordered and paid for, you would rightly be upset. You would probably not go there again as it reflects the way that the restaurant feels about you as a customer - that you are just a piece of meat to be milked for cash. They don't actually value your patronage. This is how "Unnamed MyGaming community member" and many others feel. Many companies in the industry feel total disregard for their customers and this rightfully upsets people, especially if it provides an indication of what we can expect in the future from that company. And it does. If they can get away with it now, they will do it again, and at the next big game launch we will have similar issues, and the next one and the next and so on. This hurts the gaming industry as it lowers sale numbers and encourages piracy.
Not everyone has a problem with this and that is their prerogative. But for those of us that do care, we should be allowed to post our feelings to create a buzz around the fact that there is a MASSIVE problem with the game and create awareness for others so that they can make informed decisions when deciding whether or not to buy the game.
So thanks to James for writing the column and thanks to "Unnamed MyGaming Community Member" for kicking up a fuss because I think that it's necessary to do so.
Graal
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Yes, and as I said to Fivel, I have no issue with people holding differing opinions. My issue is when people become obnoxious about it, which Unnamed MyGaming Forum Member is currently being. I was unhappy with Diablo 3 (and Dishonored, the new X-Com, etc) last year, but I didn't use that as an excuse to spam up the discussion thread with every single negative article I could find on the internet. I had my say and I left it at that.
Nobody wants to come to a forum to discuss a game just to find when they open the thread they have to contend with walls of negative posts from a single poster who doesn't even own the game and has no plans to purchase it. Said poster has been asked to create another thread in which he can post all his negativity but has chosen to instead continue to spam up the discussion thread, making it hard for us to discuss the actual game without him posting something negative about the server issues, which have mostly been cleared up from what I've been reading on the internet.
The result? I'd rather be (and already am) discussing the game on another forum where members do not spam up the threads with articles we can find ourselves by typing 'Simcity 2013' into google and filtering for News.
This. Basically my post in tl;dr format.
Nobody wants to come to a forum to discuss a game just to find when they open the thread they have to contend with walls of negative posts from a single poster who doesn't even own the game and has no plans to purchase it. Said poster has been asked to create another thread in which he can post all his negativity but has chosen to instead continue to spam up the discussion thread, making it hard for us to discuss the actual game without him posting something negative about the server issues, which have mostly been cleared up from what I've been reading on the internet.
The result? I'd rather be (and already am) discussing the game on another forum where members do not spam up the threads with articles we can find ourselves by typing 'Simcity 2013' into google and filtering for News.
This. Basically my post in tl;dr format.
There are some people who are so naive or short-sighted that they think that my entire battle is only related to Simcity (just like Diablo before this). Said people lose site of the fact that I was one of the biggest advertisers for XCOM, Torchlight II, Path of Exile, Wasteland etc. Very good games (even though they also have flaws).
My issue is with the direction in which the industry is going as StaggerLee and James have pointed out. If we allow this now, then we can forget about ever playing games on launch day or even launch week ever again. But some people will probably be ok with that, and that's why the industry is taking advantage of it and why it has been allowed to get away with it so far.
My issue is with the direction in which the industry is going as StaggerLee and James have pointed out. If we allow this now, then we can forget about ever playing games on launch day or even launch week ever again. But some people will probably be ok with that, and that's why the industry is taking advantage of it and why it has been allowed to get away with it so far.
Graal
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Please read;
We get it. You're an angry little man. Now stop being obnoxious about it. We heard you the first time.
If you want to have your 'da good faait against Dee Arrrrr Emmm,' go do it in a thread where it's appropriate.
MetalSoup
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I don't really want to get involved in this fight, but judging by the thread title, isn't this the right one for exactly that? I know he has been going on a lot about this in the other Sim City thread as well, if that what you are talking about, just forget I said anything
Glordit
Neo Zeon
If you really wanted the game you would put up with the DRM requirements. Otherwise it's pointless to complain.