{"id":27753,"date":"2011-11-29T14:09:09","date_gmt":"2011-11-29T12:09:09","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/mygaming.co.za\/news\/?p=27753"},"modified":"2011-11-30T17:54:21","modified_gmt":"2011-11-30T15:54:21","slug":"cdprojekt-still-anti-drm-despite-high-piracy-rates","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/mygaming.co.za\/news\/pc\/27753-cdprojekt-still-anti-drm-despite-high-piracy-rates","title":{"rendered":"CDProjekt still anti-DRM despite high piracy rates"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Piracy remains a hot topic in the gaming world, not only because it has a direct affect on the long term growth and development of the industry, but also because it is has a direct affect on the games we are playing now. There is no denying that piracy is rife, particularly if we look at <a title=\"System Information\" href=\"http:\/\/mygaming.co.za\/forum\/showthread.php\/21037-PC-Gaming\">PC gaming<\/a>, and there are a multitude of opinions on how to curb it and promote growth in the game buyer\u2019s market.<\/p>\n<p>As a result, different publishers are enacting unique and varied solutions to the problem. <a title=\"Company Information\" href=\"http:\/\/mygaming.co.za\/forum\/showthread.php\/11845-Ubisoft\">Ubisoft<\/a> has made a particularly bad name for itself by shipping recent PC games with <a title=\"Term Information\" href=\"http:\/\/mygaming.co.za\/forum\/showthread.php\/20299-DRM-Digital-Rights-Management\">DRM<\/a> which requires gamers to be online at all times when playing games.<\/p>\n<p>On the opposite end of the spectrum, we have independent Polish publisher CDProjekt, which ignores DRM altogether, insisting that gamers will pay for a product if they perceive it as valuable enough.<\/p>\n<p>PCGamer recently conducted an interview with\u00a0 CDProjekt founder and CEO Marcin Iwinski, in which Iwinski shares his thoughts on piracy and his company\u2019s approach to selling PC games in a market where it is so prominent.<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_27755\" style=\"width: 610px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><a href=\"http:\/\/mygaming.co.za\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/11\/Marcin.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-27755\" class=\"size-full wp-image-27755\" title=\"Marcin Iwinski\" src=\"http:\/\/mygaming.co.za\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/11\/Marcin.jpg\" alt=\"Marcin Iwinski\" width=\"600\" height=\"295\" srcset=\"https:\/\/mygaming.co.za\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/11\/Marcin-300x148.jpg 300w, https:\/\/mygaming.co.za\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/11\/Marcin-250x123.jpg 250w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 600px) 100vw, 600px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-27755\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Look who&#39;s talking: Marcin Iwinski<\/p><\/div>\n<p>One of the first statements he makes is one which echoes the sentiments of many gamers:<\/p>\n<p>\u201cDRM does not work and however you would protect it, it will be cracked in no time. Plus, the DRM itself is a pain for your legal gamers \u2013 this group of honest people, who decided that your game was worth the 50 USD or Euro and went and bought it. Why would you want to make their lives more difficult?\u201d<\/p>\n<p>It\u2019s easy for us, the paying consumers to say that, but when a man whose own product has been pirated countless times agrees then it gives the argument real credibility. When asked how many times he believes The Witcher 2 was pirated, Iwinski had this to say:<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThere are no stats available, but let\u2019s make a quick calculation.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;I was checking regularly the number of concurrent downloads on torrent aggregating sites, and for the first 6-8 weeks there was around 20-30k ppl downloading it at the same time. Let\u2019s take 20k as the average and let\u2019s take 6 weeks. The game is 14GB, so let\u2019s assume that on an average not-too-fast connection it will be 6 hours of download. 8 weeks is 56 days, which equals to 1344 hours; and with a 6 hour of average download time to get the game it would give us 224 downloads, then let\u2019s multiply it by 20k simultaneous downloaders.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Did you get all that?<\/p>\n<p>(8 x 7 x 24) \/ 6 = 224 ; 224 x 20 000 = ?<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;The result is roughly 4.5 million illegal downloads. This is only an estimation, and I would say that\u2019s rather on the optimistic side of things; as of today we have sold over 1M legal copies, so having only 4.5-5 illegal copies for each legal one would be not a bad ratio. The reality is probably way worse.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/mygaming.co.za\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/The_Witcher_2_screenshot_review_18_371061579.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-23367\" title=\"The_Witcher_2_screenshot_review_18_371061579.jpg\" src=\"http:\/\/mygaming.co.za\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/The_Witcher_2_screenshot_review_18_371061579.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"600\" height=\"337\" srcset=\"https:\/\/mygaming.co.za\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/The_Witcher_2_screenshot_review_18_371061579.jpg 800w, https:\/\/mygaming.co.za\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/The_Witcher_2_screenshot_review_18_371061579-300x168.jpg 300w, https:\/\/mygaming.co.za\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/The_Witcher_2_screenshot_review_18_371061579-80x45.jpg 80w, https:\/\/mygaming.co.za\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/The_Witcher_2_screenshot_review_18_371061579-100x56.jpg 100w, https:\/\/mygaming.co.za\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/The_Witcher_2_screenshot_review_18_371061579-150x84.jpg 150w, https:\/\/mygaming.co.za\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/The_Witcher_2_screenshot_review_18_371061579-170x96.jpg 170w, https:\/\/mygaming.co.za\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/The_Witcher_2_screenshot_review_18_371061579-297x167.jpg 297w, https:\/\/mygaming.co.za\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/The_Witcher_2_screenshot_review_18_371061579-530x298.jpg 530w, https:\/\/mygaming.co.za\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/The_Witcher_2_screenshot_review_18_371061579-625x351.jpg 625w, https:\/\/mygaming.co.za\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/The_Witcher_2_screenshot_review_18_371061579-250x140.jpg 250w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 600px) 100vw, 600px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>But that doesn\u2019t change his view that DRM is not the solution, \u201cIn my almost 20 years in the industry, I have not seen DRM that really worked (i.e. did not complicate the life of the legal gamer and at the same time protect the game).<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;We have seen a lot of different protections, but there are only two ways you can go: Either you use light DRM, which is cracked in no time and is not a major pain for the end-user, or you go the hard way and try to super-protect the game.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u201cYes, it is then hard to crack, but you start messing with the operation system, the game runs much slower and \u2013 for a group of legal gamers \u2013 it will not run at all. None of these solutions really work, so why not abandon it altogether?\u201d<\/p>\n<p>When discussing his proposed solution to the problem of piracy, Iwinski recalled his days of fighting piracy in Poland back in 1994, when it was unusual\u00a0 for people to actually pay for games.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cWe did not give up, but came up with new strategy: we started offering high value with the product \u2013 like enhancing the game with additional collectors\u2019 items like soundtracks, making-of DVDs, books, walkthroughs, etc. This, together with a long process of educating local gamers about why it makes sense to actually buy games legally, worked. And today, we have a reasonably healthy games market.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>And this seems to be the exact approach which CDProjekt is taking now. The Witcher 2 standard edition shipped with a variety of extra cool goodies, and removing DRM built good-will among the PC gaming community.<\/p>\n<p>As a result, The Witcher 2 managed to ship 1.5 million units, and that was without any copy protection measures.<\/p>\n<h5>Source: <a title=\"PC Gamer\" href=\"http:\/\/www.pcgamer.com\/2011\/11\/29\/interview-cd-projekts-ceo-on-witcher-2-piracy-why-drms-still-not-worth-it\/\">PCGamer<\/a><\/h5>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/mygaming.co.za\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/The_Witcher_2_screenshot_review_16_749132745.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-23365\" title=\"The_Witcher_2_screenshot_review_16_749132745.jpg\" src=\"http:\/\/mygaming.co.za\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/The_Witcher_2_screenshot_review_16_749132745.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"600\" height=\"355\" srcset=\"https:\/\/mygaming.co.za\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/The_Witcher_2_screenshot_review_16_749132745.jpg 800w, https:\/\/mygaming.co.za\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/The_Witcher_2_screenshot_review_16_749132745-300x177.jpg 300w, https:\/\/mygaming.co.za\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/The_Witcher_2_screenshot_review_16_749132745-250x147.jpg 250w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 600px) 100vw, 600px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Conservative estimates put The Witcher 2 piracy ratio at 5:1; DRM still not the solution<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":161,"featured_media":27757,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_sma_x_autopost_enabled":true,"_sma_x_custom_text":"","_sma_x_autopost_status":"idle","_sma_x_autopost_error":"","_sma_x_post_id":"","_sma_x_attempts":0,"footnotes":""},"categories":[20,3],"tags":[41,21,1097,1095,101,1093],"class_list":["post-27753","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-features","category-pc","tag-drm","tag-headline","tag-interview","tag-marcin-iwinski","tag-piracy","tag-the-witcher"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/mygaming.co.za\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/27753","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/mygaming.co.za\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/mygaming.co.za\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mygaming.co.za\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/161"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mygaming.co.za\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=27753"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/mygaming.co.za\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/27753\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":27817,"href":"https:\/\/mygaming.co.za\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/27753\/revisions\/27817"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mygaming.co.za\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/27757"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/mygaming.co.za\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=27753"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mygaming.co.za\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=27753"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mygaming.co.za\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=27753"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}