{"id":83779,"date":"2015-11-24T15:00:33","date_gmt":"2015-11-24T13:00:33","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/mygaming.co.za\/news\/?p=83779"},"modified":"2015-11-24T15:05:37","modified_gmt":"2015-11-24T13:05:37","slug":"bethesdas-pete-hines-deflects-question-fallout-4-fans-flip-their-collective-lids","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/mygaming.co.za\/news\/business\/83779-bethesdas-pete-hines-deflects-question-fallout-4-fans-flip-their-collective-lids","title":{"rendered":"Bethesda&#8217;s Pete Hines deflects question: Fallout 4 fans flip their collective lids"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>When questioned about the authenticity of a personal log discovered in the world of <em>Fallout 4<\/em>, Bethesda\u2019s VP Pete Hines, for the most part, deflected the question. In response, a good deal of <em>Fallout 4\u2019s<\/em> fans lost their collective minds.<\/p>\n<p>The fan in question, Jarrett Johnston, curious about potential mistakes regarding the lore and narrative of <em>Fallout 4<\/em>, questioned Hines \u2013 Hines\u2019 responses weren\u2019t taken very well.<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-width=\"500\" data-dnt=\"true\">\n<p lang=\"en\" dir=\"ltr\"><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/JohnstonJarrett?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">@JohnstonJarrett<\/a> doesn&#39;t say what year that was posted<\/p>\n<p>&mdash; Pete Hines (@DCDeacon) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/DCDeacon\/status\/668795470110699520?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">November 23, 2015<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"https:\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-width=\"500\" data-dnt=\"true\">\n<p lang=\"en\" dir=\"ltr\"><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/JohnstonJarrett?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">@JohnstonJarrett<\/a> not interested in discussing how realistic things are in an alternate universe post-apoc game w\/ talking mutants and ghouls<\/p>\n<p>&mdash; Pete Hines (@DCDeacon) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/DCDeacon\/status\/668802348140109824?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">November 23, 2015<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"https:\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n<p>Jet is indeed a post-war drug, having been concocted by <em>Fallout 2<\/em> personality <a href=\"http:\/\/fallout.wikia.com\/wiki\/Myron\" target=\"_blank\">Myron<\/a> and requiring <a href=\"http:\/\/fallout.wikia.com\/wiki\/Brahmin\" target=\"_blank\">brahmin<\/a> to be synthesised, so Johnston is not wrong to assume that this piece of text is incorrect when you consider the lore of <em>Fallout<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p>Taking a cursory glance at the terminal message, however, Hines isn\u2019t wrong to assert that the year isn\u2019t specified on the message \u2013 the premise:<\/p>\n<p><em><a href=\"http:\/\/fallout.wikia.com\/wiki\/Vault_95\" target=\"_blank\">Vault 95<\/a>, like all vaults, was created for the sake of social experimentation. This particular vault was setup to study the behaviour of rehabilitated drug addicts following the introduction of a large quantity of drugs. According to <a href=\"http:\/\/fallout.wikia.com\/wiki\/Vault_95_terminal_entries\" target=\"_blank\">terminal entries<\/a> found throughout the vault, the experiment continued in spite of the war. The result, unwilling to leave the safety of the vault, the residents were overcome by the insatiable pressure presented to them by the freely available narcotics and tore the proxy community they had established apart. All of this was recorded by the vault\u2019s staff as well as overseer, all of whom eventually abandoned the vault.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>Is it possible that, instead, the vault remained sealed as the bombs dropped, eventually being opened and settled many years into the apocalyptic world of Fallout. Gracious for the shelter it provided, those who first moved in followed the instructions left by Vault-Tec and appointed themselves its caretakers, following the strict procedures left for intended residents, even recording and documenting the results. All they would need is to find addicted residents of the Commonwealth [http:\/\/fallout.wikia.com\/wiki\/The_Commonwealth] and followed through with the prescribed study \u2013 that would allow the use of Jet.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Shaky as that explanation is, the open-ended nature of the terminal entries allows for any number events to have transpired. Rather unfortunately for Hines, he didn\u2019t engage in a lively debate, nor did he say that in so many words. \u201c<em>Doesn\u2019t say what year that was posted,<\/em>\u201d was his reply. Fair enough.<\/p>\n<p>Following that, Johnston asked how a ghoul kid from the quest &#8216;<a href=\"http:\/\/fallout.wikia.com\/wiki\/Kid_in_a_Fridge\" target=\"_blank\">Kid in a Fridge<\/a>&#8216; survived living in the fridge for more than 200 years, having hid in said fridge when the <a href=\"http:\/\/fallout.wikia.com\/wiki\/Great_War\" target=\"_blank\">Great War<\/a> started.<\/p>\n<p>Hines responded with the message above, \u201c<em>not interested in discussing how realistic things are in an alternate universe post-apoc game w\/ talking mutants and ghouls<\/em>\u201d.<\/p>\n<p>In Hines\u2019 defence, ghouls, especially as <em>Fallout <\/em>depicts them, would not likely exist in any shape or form, no matter the circumstances \u2013 radiation simply doesn\u2019t work like that.<\/p>\n<p>Authenticity and consistency, however, are very real factors one needs to consider when crafting a fictional universe worth caring about, a sentiment those enraged by Hines seem to agree with:<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-width=\"500\" data-dnt=\"true\">\n<p lang=\"en\" dir=\"ltr\"><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/DCDeacon?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">@DCDeacon<\/a> <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/JohnstonJarrett?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">@JohnstonJarrett<\/a> Internal consistency is the basis for believability of a fictional universe, it has nothing to do with realism<\/p>\n<p>&mdash; Duke Bilgewater (@Duke_Bilgewater) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/Duke_Bilgewater\/status\/668823672174415876?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">November 23, 2015<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"https:\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n<p>It\u2019s alright to make mistakes, it\u2019s going to happen when more than one person is responsible for crafting that world, but it\u2019s not the inaccuracies that frustrated fans, it\u2019s the indifferent and seemingly uninterested tone of the message that caused the fuss and bother.<\/p>\n<p>It\u2019s clear that <em>Fallout\u2019s<\/em> fans care a good deal about the universe <em>Fallout<\/em> finds itself in, and they responded to Hines in kind.<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-width=\"500\" data-dnt=\"true\">\n<p lang=\"en\" dir=\"ltr\"><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/DCDeacon?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">@DCDeacon<\/a> ever heard of &quot;internal consistency&quot;?<br \/>Nah you&#39;re just vp of the biggest RPG company in the world, why would you? That&#39;s nerd stuff<\/p>\n<p>&mdash; cloudropis (@cloudropis) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/cloudropis\/status\/668822141706633216?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">November 23, 2015<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"https:\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-width=\"500\" data-dnt=\"true\">\n<p lang=\"en\" dir=\"ltr\"><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/Gzalzi?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">@Gzalzi<\/a> we do. a lot. this isn&#39;t about lore consistency. i&#39;m pointing out a writer can have fun w a quest premise<\/p>\n<p>&mdash; Pete Hines (@DCDeacon) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/DCDeacon\/status\/668830304275177472?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">November 23, 2015<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"https:\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n<p>We think that Hines saw the initial tweets proposed by Johnston as an attack on their IP, something developers and publishers will undergo when releasing any title.<\/p>\n<p>We wouldn\u2019t blame him for being fed up by relentless assault regarding every detail of <em>Fallout 4<\/em>, many of which we imagine are largely unfounded or overtly negative. Still, he probably should have thought about how he replied.<\/p>\n<p>He\u2019s not wrong to assert that level designers should have fun when developing a game:<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-width=\"500\" data-dnt=\"true\">\n<p lang=\"en\" dir=\"ltr\"><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/DaChemicalCat?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">@DaChemicalCat<\/a> no, i&#39;m saying that writers and designers can have some fun in the worlds they build<\/p>\n<p>&mdash; Pete Hines (@DCDeacon) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/DCDeacon\/status\/668832355608563712?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">November 23, 2015<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"https:\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n<p>But rather than shutting those curious about potential inconsistencies down, take their criticism on board and use it for the better.<\/p>\n<p>Either way, Hines stepped in it this week. Fortunately, <em>Fallout 4<\/em> is a lot of fun and we\u2019re okay with the odd inconsistency. Just take your game\u2019s PR a little more seriously next time Hines. Many will take your words as the words of Bethesda in its entirety.<\/p>\n<p>That goes out to all developers and publishers alike. Even if you take your game very seriously, there will be gamers who take it just as seriously, if not more so.<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<h3 class=\"my-4\"><strong>In other news<\/strong><\/h3>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/mygaming.co.za\/news\/news\/83775-fallout-4s-first-pc-patch-is-smaller-than-expected-still-in-beta.html\">Fallout 4\u2019s first PC patch is smaller than expected: still in beta<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/mygaming.co.za\/news\/news\/83763-just-cause-3-pc-specs-revealed-far-from-demanding.html\">Just Cause 3 PC specs revealed: far from demanding<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/mygaming.co.za\/news\/news\/83717-this-is-where-mass-effect-andromeda-is-heading-claims-leak.html\">This is where Mass Effect: Andromeda is heading, claims leak<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>It&#8217;s all about tone Pete. 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