Gaming Build. Advice?

spleenpoker said:
I see it says I must fit it in the front.

How do you suggest I arrange the airflow in the case?
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i would suggest running the rad fans to push out the cash through the rad. I don't see you needing much airflow in the case seeing as nothing in there will be needing the airflow.

With that said I may actually change my mind about the case, I don't think it's ideal for your build and it limits you if you plan on getting a non reference gpu.
 
The Joker said:
i would suggest running the rad fans to push out the cash through the rad. I don't see you needing much airflow in the case seeing as nothing in there will be needing the airflow.

With that said I may actually change my mind about the case, I don't think it's ideal for your build and it limits you if you plan on getting a non reference gpu.
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What do you recommend then? What about its big brother, the mastercase 5?

http://www.rebeltech.co.za/midi-towers/10680-cooler-master-mastercase-5-midi-tower-black-atx-cooler-master-mastercase-5-mcx-0005-kkn00-midi-tower-black-no-psu-bottom-placed-.html?search_query=mastercase&results=7
 
spleenpoker said:
What do you recommend then? What about its big brother, the mastercase 5?

http://www.rebeltech.co.za/midi-towers/10680-cooler-master-mastercase-5-midi-tower-black-atx-cooler-master-mastercase-5-mcx-0005-kkn00-midi-tower-black-no-psu-bottom-placed-.html?search_query=mastercase&results=7
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Yeah I reckon that would be a better option in this case. (Pun intended) :D

You could also look at this bad boy

http://www.rebeltech.co.za/midi-tow...w-midi-tower-black-windowed-side-panel-s.html

One of my all time favorite cases. Incredible build quality and really spacious.
 
Interesting thread. If I might weigh in, I'd hold on to your GPU for the time being, at least for a little while longer. You might be able to get a good deal on a GTX1070 in a few months, maybe even something better - trying to think what that could be... - but if you can't wait, then disregard this post. It's a great build you're going for, I'm jealous.
 
I would consider the GIGABYTE Z170M-D3H or the GIGABYTE Z170-D3H

The difference is that the one has a Realtek ALC1150 and the other a Realtek ALC892 audio device

The Z170-D3H has 8 x USB 3.0/2.0 ports, 4 x USB 2.0/1.1 ports and 1 x USB Type-C port, where the Z170M-D3H has 8 x USB 3.0/2.0 ports and 6 x USB 2.0/1.1 ports

Apart from that they're similar. The biggest reason I'll push these two boards is because of the Intel GbE LAN chip, which based on many years of dabbling with server hardware almost always comes out top in respects to giving maximum throughput. I'll pop you more details around why I prefer Intel NICs over Broadcom and Realtek if you so desire.
 
PsychoFish said:
I would consider the GIGABYTE Z170M-D3H or the GIGABYTE Z170-D3H

The difference is that the one has a Realtek ALC1150 and the other a Realtek ALC892 audio device

The Z170-D3H has 8 x USB 3.0/2.0 ports, 4 x USB 2.0/1.1 ports and 1 x USB Type-C port, where the Z170M-D3H has 8 x USB 3.0/2.0 ports and 6 x USB 2.0/1.1 ports

Apart from that they're similar. The biggest reason I'll push these two boards is because of the Intel GbE LAN chip, which based on many years of dabbling with server hardware almost always comes out top in respects to giving maximum throughput. I'll pop you more details around why I prefer Intel NICs over Broadcom and Realtek if you so desire.
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Thanks, will check those out this afternoon. Whats the build quality of current Gigabyte products? I've had to RMA 2 GPU's a couple of years back and haven't touched any of their products since.
 
Apollo said:
Thanks, will check those out this afternoon. Whats the build quality of current Gigabyte products? I've had to RMA 2 GPU's a couple of years back and haven't touched any of their products since.
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Call it brand loyalty if you must, but my gaming PC's motherboards tend to be either Gigabyte or MSI, and I have had 0 issues with either brands to date. I personally don't touch ASRock motherboards anymore (had issues with Linux compatibility and chipsets that just died).
 
PsychoFish said:
yes, that looks RAD!! ARP Offload support, Jumbo Frame support, Recieve Side Scaling and Tx & Rx queues are seperated.

Yes, that will do :-)
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Thanks that's exactly what i thought about those thingamabobs. Now to redesign the colour scheme of my setup :/
 
Apollo said:
Thanks that's exactly what i thought about those thingamabobs. Now to redesign the colour scheme of my setup :/
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Let me do the laymans explanation of what some of these fancy things do.

Originally TCP was designed for unreliable low speed networks. The TCP software implementations on host systems require extensive computing power. Full duplex gigabit TCP communication could consume more than 80% of a 2.4 GHz Pentium 4 processor resulting in little or no processing resources left for the applications to run on the system. So what manufacturers have started doing is offloading UDP, TCP and ARP processing to the NIC hardware. A generally accepted rule of thumb is that 1 Hertz of CPU processing is required to send or receive 1 bit/s of TCP/IP. In other words, a server with TCP/IP offload can do more server work than a server without TCP/IP offload NICs. Because some functions, like Connection Establishment (SYN, SYN-ACK and ACK) can now happen on the NIC and not on the CPU you also find that less data has to travel between the CPU and the NIC. Less data = more processing for CPU to do CPU related stuff, instead of having to do network related stuff.

Multiqueue NICs provide multiple transmit and receive queues, allowing packets received by the NIC to be assigned to one of its receive queues. Each receive queue is assigned to a separate interrupt; by routing each of those interrupts to different CPUs/cores, processing of the interrupt requests triggered by the network traffic received by a single NIC can be distributed among multiple cores, bringing additional performance improvements in interrupt handling. Usually, a NIC distributes incoming traffic between the receive queues using a hash function, while separate interrupts can be routed to different CPUs/cores either automatically by the operating system, or manually by configuring the IRQ affinity. That way, taking the application locality into account results in higher overall performance, reduced latency and better hardware utilization, resulting from the higher utilization of CPU caches and fewer required context switches.

Now Jumbo frames...aka MTU size over 1500 bytes. Even though supported you actually need to set the MTU on your router to something like 9000 bytes, that basically means that the payload for each frame is 6 times more that usual. This will not improve INTERNET performance, but if you have to PCs and both have MTU set to 9000 bytes and you send a large file it will require less packets to be sent over the network to do the same work. So instead of sending 6000 packets it will send 1000. That's the simplest explanation. In reality there are a number of other factors to consider, and generally you don't want to fiddle with this unless you know what you're doing.
 
PsychoFish said:
Now Jumbo frames...aka MTU size over 1500 bytes. Even though supported you actually need to set the MTU on your router to something like 9000 bytes, that basically means that the payload for each frame is 6 times more that usual. This will not improve INTERNET performance, but if you have to PCs and both have MTU set to 9000 bytes and you send a large file it will require less packets to be sent over the network to do the same work. So instead of sending 6000 packets it will send 1000. That's the simplest explanation. In reality there are a number of other factors to consider, and generally you don't want to fiddle with this unless you know what you're doing.
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Very informative thanks. Had trouble with my router the other day. Games not connecting and websites not loading. Turned out to be the MTU setting. Mikrotik doesnt make it easy for noobs to figure it out.
 
Apollo said:
Very informative thanks. Had trouble with my router the other day. Games not connecting and websites not loading. Turned out to be the MTU setting. Mikrotik doesnt make it easy for noobs to figure it out.
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Cool, what Mikrotik device do you have? I have a couple lying around as we use them for various network related things.
 
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