The victims of PC gaming DRM: one soldier's story

larch said:
Your more and welcome to come do a software audit on my company by law I am required to distribute legal software to my clients. If a client cant afford it then I recommend a open source free ware alternative. Every piece of software I own is registered and paid for, same goes for everything else I own in my personal capacity.
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I'm not talking about your company, I'm talking about you. I can't Imagen somebody would be stupid enough to sell pirated software in a business (but there are people who are)
 
Necuno said:
then why do you reply at all :D
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Because I have something to say and I could be bothered reading another rehash of "OMGPIRACYRAHRAHRAH"?

Azimuth said:
Not that I really agree with Ubisoft's approach here at all, but I don't think the bandwidth consumption here is anything significant. I'd imagine this works something like Xbox Live, where connection might amount to 1 or 2mb over an entire day. They do appear to be implementing some sort of cloud system for game saves, which is obviously going to add to that, but I don't think it's anything anywhere near the amounts of bandwith used up in multiplayer, or even browsing.
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It depends entirely on how they implement the save feature. I'd like to believe they'd use a method which minimises the size of the save file, but if not, we're gonna end up getting screwed. B/W usage on save games would obviously include reloading from previous saves.

I think the thing that really annoys me about this is that if I want to play this game, I'm locked into playing it at home, since LANs in this country most don't have internet availability for anything other than steam verification (i.e. apart from the steam auth ports, all others are blocked).
 
tpex said:
I'm not talking about your company, I'm talking about you. I can't Imagen somebody would be stupid enough to sell pirated software in a business (but there are people who are)
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And what type of company owner would I be if I did not lead by example? I run my business from home so my home is my office. And I have never felt the need to pirate software or games. If your smart enough you can find freeware or open source software alternatives for those programs you dont wish to pay for Open Office would be a good example. And if I cant afford a game this month I buy it next month or wait for 2nd hand copies at BTgames.
 
larch said:
And what type of company owner would I be if I did not lead by example? I run my business from home so my home is my office. And I have never felt the need to pirate software or games. If your smart enough you can find freeware or open source software alternatives for those programs you dont wish to pay for Open Office would be a good example. And if I cant afford a game this month I buy it next month or wait for 2nd hand copies at BTgames.
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so you have never pirated a song, ebook, movie, game, program in your whole life?
 
It goes against my better judgment not to feed the troll, as well as MyGaming's policy regarding personal attacks on other members, but here goes:

Larch, you're being a dick and you're making the forums unpleasant for everyone. Perhaps it's your gross inability to detect sarcasm, but you're not making any friends with your arrogant and self-centered views. Please change your attitude or leave.

Everyone here gets along and it's not a pissing contest about who can make the best point. We're here for entertainment. (Although I'm sure you are a semi professional master-debater)
 
tpex said:
so you have never pirated a song, ebook, movie, game, program in your whole life?
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Admittedly I used to download a crap load of fansubs (Anime) but I stopped about 4 years ago and now I buy the DVD`s I want. But I never pirated software or games.

Voicy said:
Larch, you're being a dick and you're making the forums unpleasant for everyone. Perhaps it's your gross inability to detect sarcasm, but you're not making any friends with your arrogant and self-centered views. Please change your attitude or leave.
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No, I like it here :)
 
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What Voicy said.

I've sent larch a PM and will handle the dirty laundry that way, so let's keep the rest of the discussion on topic, please.
 
GReeN_ORB said:
It depends entirely on how they implement the save feature. I'd like to believe they'd use a method which minimises the size of the save file, but if not, we're gonna end up getting screwed. B/W usage on save games would obviously include reloading from previous saves.

I think the thing that really annoys me about this is that if I want to play this game, I'm locked into playing it at home, since LANs in this country most don't have internet availability for anything other than steam verification (i.e. apart from the steam auth ports, all others are blocked).
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Yeah, it's that second bit that's the most problematic, really. The game's going to be cracked within a week, and pirates won't be inconvenienced by that at all. Legitimate buyers 0; pirates 1. Fail.

larch said:
And what type of company owner would I be if I did not lead by example? I run my business from home so my home is my office. And I have never felt the need to pirate software or games. If your smart enough you can find freeware or open source software alternatives for those programs you dont wish to pay for Open Office would be a good example. And if I cant afford a game this month I buy it next month or wait for 2nd hand copies at BTgames.
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Heh, I used Open Office for three years or so, and recently bought MS Office. And, really, MS Office >>>>>>>>> Open Office. :P

tpex said:
so you have never pirated a song, ebook, movie, game, program in your whole life?
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Who the hell pirates books? Lulz. While I've had a few (and I really do mean just a few) pirated songs, apps, and games in my time, I've never pirated a movie, series, or book (lolbook, seriously; go to a library). And I've long since removed every single pirated item from my collection. I legitimately own every single song in iTunes and on my iPod, every game in my collection, all my software (including the OSes on three PCs, and Photoshop), and if I want to watch a series or movie, I'll buy or rent a DVD.

My point is, I don't think it's all that far-fetched that someone might've never pirated anything. It's not true of me, of course, but I think I'm probably a lot closer to that than most people. There's a spectrum of habit here, and it has two ends. I think that this business of suggesting people are dishonest for claiming they've never pirated something is a sort of collectivist response designed to convince pirates there's no moral or ethical high ground in the debate. Yet if there are people who pirate everything (and there are), it's not unreasonable to assume there are people who don't pirate anything at all.

Jus' sayin', yo. :)
 
Azimuth said:
Heh, I used Open Office for three years or so, and recently bought MS Office. And, really, MS Office >>>>>>>>> Open Office. :P
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Agreed but when you have a company with 120 people and the CEO is to cheapskate to buy the licenses for Office 2007 for those 120 people what else can you do? And 120 x R2769 is a lot of money.
 
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As a scholar with computer studies, I am compelled to have a copy of MS Office 2007 (with MS Access for database studies). I find it absurd that I have to pay more than R3000 for a program just because my school uses it; there are many database alternatives. Without a doubt, I got a pirate copy from a friend.

Shun me.
 
Vixe said:
As a scholar with computer studies, I am compelled to have a copy of MS Office 2007 (with MS Access for database studies). I find it absurd that I have to pay more than R3000 for a program just because my school uses it; there are many database alternatives. Without a doubt, I got a pirate copy from a friend.

Shun me.
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Why doesn't the school provide a copy? The MS Schools program is there for a reason, after all.
 
Vixe said:
As a scholar with computer studies, I am compelled to have a copy of MS Office 2007 (with MS Access for database studies). I find it absurd that I have to pay more than R3000 for a program just because my school uses it; there are many database alternatives. Without a doubt, I got a pirate copy from a friend.

Shun me.
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One of those alternatives is Open Office Base, an entirely compatible, freeware open source alternative. So. Yeah. Shun.

:P
 
Meh. I get Word, Excel and all that junk as well. :p Not really bothered seeing how Microsoft is the root of all evil. But that's for another endless thread.
 
Oh, come on. I was just starting to like you. The "greedy corporations" thing is mostly propaganda, you know. There's an interesting section discussing that in the piracy article linked elsewhere around here.
 
yarrrrrrrrr @ Vixe.... you wouldn't steal a car.....you wouldn't steal a handbag.... you might steal candy from a child...
 
Haha, I was just kidding :p , and I know which article you are referring to. It's page 6 where they say that Sony and Microsoft bribe developers: http://www.tweakguides.com/Piracy_6.html

I don't really believe Microsoft is evil, I just hate the overpriced nature of their software. But like I say, that's for another endless thread :)
 
Vixe said:
I don't really believe Microsoft is evil, I just hate the overpriced nature of their software. But like I say, that's for another endless thread :)
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i wonder how many hours you would spend developing an office packet...taking in account roughly R150-R200 p/h and then also money spend on R&D, consultancy, marketing and obviously testing too. seems you would have to pay a few persons- how much would you think it's going to cost to make something like a complete office packet ? not to forget you also would need to deploy a support team afterwards who would need pay for a few years after the product has been sold.
 
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